Calculating Moment of Inertia for a Thin-Walled Spherical Object

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment of inertia for a thin-walled spherical object, specifically using spherical coordinates. The equation I = mr² is applied, with the mass element dm derived from the surface area of the sphere. The correct surface area element is clarified as sinφ dθ dφ, which accounts for the geometry of spherical coordinates. The final moment of inertia is determined to be I = (2/3)ma², with additional emphasis on the importance of integrating over the correct axis. The conversation also touches on the conventions of angular measurements in spherical coordinates.
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Homework Statement


How to calculat the moment of inertia of a thin wall, the surface area of a ball of mass m and radii a.

Homework Equations


I=mr2

The Attempt at a Solution


Spherical coordinates.

dm=\frac{m}{4\pi a^2}\cdot a^2\cdot d\theta d\phi

See drawing.

I=\int_{\theta=0}^{2\pi} \int_{\phi=-\frac{\pi}{2}}^\frac{\pi}{2} dm\cdot a^2
I=\int_{\theta=0}^{2\pi} \int_{\phi=-\frac{\pi}{2}}^\frac{\pi}{2} \frac{m}{4\pi a^2}\cdot a^2\cdot a^2 d\theta d\phi
I=\frac{a^2m}{4\pi}\int_{\theta=0}^{2\pi} \int_{\phi=-\frac{\pi}{2}}^\frac{\pi}{2} d\theta d\phi
I=\frac{2\pi m a^2}{4}

The answer should be:

I=\frac{2ma^2}{3}
 

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I understand about the axis, but Why is the surface element sinφdθdφ, not dθdφ?
 
Because the surface element from θ to θ+dθ and from φ to φ+dφ is a tiny rectangle whose sides are rdθ and rsinφdφ …

making an area of r2sinφdθdφ :smile:

(btw, mathematicians usually define θ and φ the other way round, so you'll see usually see sinθdθdφ instead :wink:)
 
I understand the rdθ, but why the sinφ in rsinφdφ?
 
Karol said:
I understand the rdθ, but why the sinφ in rsinφdφ?

oops! I got the sinφ in the wrong place … it should be rdφ and rsinφdθ. :redface:

(Because, at latitude φ, the circle of latitude has radius rsinφ, so a slight change from θ to θ+dθ only takes you a distance radius time angle = rsinφdθ …

so that tiny rectangle has sides rdφ and rsinφdθ)
 
I understand, but then it should be rcosφdθ!
 
We usually measure φ from the pole, ie 0 ≤ φ ≤ π, and then it's rsinφdθ … see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinates" :wink:

Only if you measure φ from the equator, ie -π/2 ≤ φ ≤ π/2 (not recommended), is it rcosφdθ.
 
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Thanks a lot, you are a charming man (or woman...)
 
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no, fish! :biggrin:
 
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