Calculating Power in Electrical Circuits: Help Needed

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating power in electrical circuits, specifically focusing on the relationship between voltage, resistance, and trigonometric functions in the context of alternating current (AC) and direct current (DC) scenarios. Participants explore how to express power in terms of voltage, resistance, and cosine functions.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Chris presents a problem involving the power formula P = V²/R and seeks to express power in terms of V, R, and cos(2t) when v = V cos(t).
  • One participant questions the notation used by Chris, suggesting that if P = V²/R, then cos(2t) is irrelevant, while if P = v²/R, then it can be expressed using trigonometric identities.
  • Another participant clarifies that for AC circuits, the instantaneous power can be expressed as P(t) = V² cos²(t) / R and discusses the average power using the identity 2 cos²(t) = 1 + cos(2t).
  • Chris acknowledges the confusion in notation and expresses gratitude for the clarification regarding the use of trigonometric identities.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of trigonometric identities to express power in AC circuits, but there is some confusion regarding the notation and the specific formulation of the problem. No consensus is reached on the correct interpretation of the original question.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the clarity of notation and the assumptions made about the definitions of voltage in different contexts (AC vs. DC). The discussion also highlights the potential for misunderstanding in mathematical expressions.

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i am just about to start an electrical course at college and I've been reading up on some mathematics i will need when i start my problem is i don't know much about compound angles and trig and i want to complete some examples within a book the following problem is the one i need help with

the power P in an electrical circuit is given by P=V²/R

find the power in terms of V, R and cos2t when v= Vcost

any help would be appreciated

chris
 
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First, clarify your notation. Is the "V" in P= V2r the "V" or "v" in v= V cos t?

If it is really P= V2/R, there is nothing to be done, P is already in terms of V and R (and cos 2t is irrelevant).

If it is really P= v2/R, then v= Vcos t so v2= V2 cos2 t and you can use the trigonometric identity cos 2t= cos2 t- sin2 t= cos2 t- (1- cos2 t)= 2cos2 t- 1 so that 2cos2 t= cos 2t+ 1 and then
cos2t= (cos(2t)+ 1)/2.

v2= V2cos2 t= V2(cos(2t)+ 1)/2.

Now, if P= v2/R, then P= V2(cos(2t)+ 1)/(2R).

A third, though unlikely, possibility is that P= V2/R and v= Vcos t but you meant "in terms of v, R, and cos 2t. In that case, V= v/cos t so cos2 t belongs in the denominator.
In that case, P= 2v2/(R(cos(2t)+ 1)).
 
Yes Chis your notation is a little confused, but I suppose that’s to be expect since you are also a little confused by the area you’re studying. Still what about some punctuation, there’s no excuse for that!

The general statement for power in a resistive load is that the instantaneous power is,

P = v^2 / R

For the “DC case” where the voltage is a constant, v = V, so P=V^2/RFor the “AC case” where the voltage is sinusoidal, v = V cos(t), so

P(t) = V^2 cos^2(t) / R

Now often we are interested primarily in just the average value of the power. In this case it is convenient to use the trig identity,

2 \cos^2(t) = 1 + \cos(2t),

to write the AC power as,

P(t) = \frac{V^2}{2R} \left( 1 + \cos(2t) \right)

Note here that the cos(2t) part has zero average. Hence for the AC case the average power is,

P_{av} = V^2 / 2R
 
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Thankyou Hallsofivy

I did think i should be using trig identities . I was a little confused:confused: because the question was taken directly from a book it is written exactly as i wrote it in my request.

P.S sorry about my grammar as i was rushing before work.

Thanks again

Chris :approve:
 

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