Calculating second moment of area of L section

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The discussion revolves around calculating the second moment of area for an L-shaped cross-section, particularly in the context of comparing theoretical results with experimental data from a buckling experiment on a strut. The focus is on the application of Euler's equation to determine the axial load on the strut.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, Max, seeks assistance in verifying their calculations for the second moment of area of an L-shaped cross-section, expressing uncertainty about their method.
  • Max clarifies that the dimensions in their diagram are in millimeters, indicating a potential source of confusion.
  • Max later suggests they may have resolved their issue using an Excel spreadsheet for calculations, although they acknowledge the lack of visible workings in the spreadsheet.
  • Another participant points out that Max's calculations are based on centroidal axes, which may not be appropriate since the strut will buckle on the weak axis, suggesting a need for Mohr's circle calculations to find the maximum and minimum moments of inertia.
  • Max concludes that their issue is resolved, but the details of the resolution are not discussed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the method for calculating the second moment of area, as there is a suggestion that the initial approach may not be suitable for the buckling analysis.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the appropriateness of the axes used for the calculations and the implications of using Mohr's circle for determining the moments of inertia.

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Hi there,

I currently trying to calculate the second moment of area of an L shaped cross section.
The reason for this is I have carried out a buckling experiment on a strut of this cross section and want to calculate some theoretical results to compare to my experimental results.
I need the second moment of area so I can use Euler's equation and calculate the axial load on the strut.

I have attached my workings for the second moment of area, but in all honesty I do not think my method is correct. It would be very helpful if someone wouldn't mind looking over my calculations and point out where I have gone wrong. It would be very much appreciated!

Thanks

Max
 

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Have just realized it is not clear on my diagram that the dimensions of the cross section are in mm.
 
At the risk of being caught talking to myself...

I think I may have figured this out, I've attached a print screen of an excel spreadsheet I used to do the calculations.
Obviously because its excel you can't see my workings, but maybe you can tell if my values look correct?
 

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It appears that you have set up to calculate second moments with respect to centroidal axes parallel to the axes (this is an obvious thing to do). Your strut will not buckle on these axes, however. It will buckle on the weak axis, which is the axis of minimum area moment of inertia. You need to take the values you obtain and go into a Mohr's circle calculation to obtain the max and min values of the MOI. This will give you the value you need to compare to your experimental work.
 
Thanks for your help, all sorted now :)
 

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