Calculating Solar Rotation Using Sunspot Observations

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The discussion revolves around calculating the solar rotation using observations of sunspots captured in a series of photos over time. Participants are exploring how to determine the longitudinal angles of sunspots and apply angular displacement to find the rotation rate.

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  • Participants are considering how to calculate the longitudinal values of sunspots and the necessary data required for this calculation. There are discussions about sketching the observations and determining the position of sunspots based on latitude and longitude. Questions arise regarding the accompanying data for each observation and the influence of the Sun's axial tilt on the apparent latitude of sunspots.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants offering various approaches to the problem, including the use of x,y coordinates to find angles and calculating angular velocity. There is no explicit consensus, but several productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

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Participants note the potential influence of the Sun's axial tilt on observations and the importance of timestamps and other data accompanying the sunspot images. There is uncertainty regarding the course level of the problem, which may affect the complexity of the calculations involved.

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Calculating solar of the sun through observing sunspots. We are given a series of photos of the sun over a period of time where we can see sun spots.

I am assuming the way to calculate would be to work out the longitudinal angles of the sun spots in the different photos and then use Angular Displacement to figure it out. The problem is I have no idea how to calculate longitude, or how to get the longitudinal values into something I can plug into the Angular Displacement equation.

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from what I understand θ=s/r. θ= ωt. But I have no idea how to use the data to get quantities I can plug into this.
 

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Did you draw a sketch?

For a given latitude and longitude, can you determine where you would see a sunspot? Then you just have to reverse the direction of the calculation.
 
sketch it out like this you mean? how would I find the quantative values from this?
 

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What data accompanies each observation? Presumably a time stamp of some form, but anything else? What's the timeframe for the whole series?

The reason I ask is that the Sun's rotational axis actually has a tilt (inclination) of about 7.5° to the ecliptic, so the time of year when the snapshot is taken, presuming an Earth-based platform for capturing the photos, will influence the apparent latitude -- spots won't track horizontally unless the viewing position has the rotation axis vertical and is located in the plane of the Sun's equator.
 
magnanimousto said:
sketch it out like this you mean?
That's not the direction I had in mind, but it can be useful as well.
how would I find the quantative values from this?
Well first you have to find the position in the image (like x,y-coordinates), and afterwards you have to translate this to a position on the actual (curved) surface of sun.

@gneill: I guess we can neglect this here.
 
mfb said:
@gneill: I guess we can neglect this here.
Could be. I can't tell the course level that the question pertains to from the given info, that's why I threw that out to see what the response might be. Carry on...
 
OK I get it. Thanks guys. I use the measurement of the x,y co-ordinates and then sin(inverse) to find angle. Then calculate difference in angle between the two spots per difference in time which would give me the angular velocity.
 

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