Calculating temperature of Hydrogen gas cloud

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the temperature of a hydrogen gas cloud based on the H-alpha line and the ratio of atoms in different excited states. The subject area includes concepts from atomic physics and thermodynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use Wien's displacement law and the occupation number to estimate the temperature, yielding values that seem high. Some participants suggest using the excitation equation to relate the number of atoms in different energy states.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different equations relevant to the problem, with some providing guidance on the excitation equation and its alternative name, the Boltzmann equation. There is acknowledgment of uncertainty regarding the coverage of these concepts in the original poster's course.

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There is mention of the original poster attempting previous exam papers, indicating potential gaps in their understanding of the relevant equations.

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Homework Statement


The H-alpha line corresponds to a transition between the 2nd and 1st excited states of hydrogen, and has a wavelength of 656.3nm. The ratio of the number of atoms in these two states in an interstellar cloud of atomic hydrogen is 2x10^-6. Find the temperature of the cloud

Homework Equations


I was thinking maybe something to do with wiens displacement law
\frac{h f}{k T}=2.822
or maybe occupation number
n_{i}=\frac{1}{e^{\frac{h c}{k T \lambda}}-1}

The Attempt at a Solution


I kind of took a stab in the dark with the occupation number and got 1673.91K and then the same with wiens law and got 7782K both of which I'm guessing are slightly too large for a hydrogen cloud.

Could someone please point me in the correct direction?
 
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I believe you want the excitation equation, which relates the number of atoms in one energy state to the number in a different state.
 
tms said:
I believe you want the excitation equation, which relates the number of atoms in one energy state to the number in a different state.

I'm not sure we've covered that? (am attempting previous exam papers so it might have been on the course before) unless there's also another name for such an equation?
 
Ahh yes that makes much more sense now. Thanks very much for your help :)
 

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