Calculating the moment of inertia for this configuration

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a system involving a spring and beads, which are constrained to rotate about the z-axis. The original poster seeks to determine the rotational kinetic energy based on the provided configuration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the moment of inertia using a formula that sums contributions from the beads. Some participants question whether the moment of inertia is correctly calculated and if it depends on the angle α.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of the angle α on the moment of inertia. Suggestions for clarification and further exploration of the problem have been made.

Contextual Notes

The problem setup includes constraints such as the rotation about the z-axis and the configuration of the beads and rods, which may influence the calculations. The original poster has provided a specific formula for the moment of inertia, but its validity is under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


I need to find the rotational kinetic energy of this system in the figure I have provided. Here the spring is rotating with the system at angular speed [itex]\omega[/itex]. The two beads on the wire move vertically, and the third bead is held by two massless rods of equal length L.


The Attempt at a Solution


Would the moment of inertia for the the whole thing just be

[itex]I_{1,3}=2mL^{2}[/itex]

[itex]I_{2,3}=2mL^{2}[/itex]

[itex]I_{total}=4mL^{2}[/itex]

Any suggestions would be helpful.
 

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Demon117 said:

Homework Statement


I need to find the rotational kinetic energy of this system in the figure I have provided. Here the spring is rotating with the system at angular speed [itex]\omega[/itex]. The two beads on the wire move vertically, and the third bead is held by two massless rods of equal length L.


The Attempt at a Solution


Would the moment of inertia for the the whole thing just be

[itex]I_{1,3}=2mL^{2}[/itex]

[itex]I_{2,3}=2mL^{2}[/itex]

[itex]I_{total}=4mL^{2}[/itex]

Any suggestions would be helpful.
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It looks as though the system is constrained to rotate about the z-axis.

You need to find the moment of inertia about the z-axis.
 
Will it depend on the angle [itex]\alpha[/itex]?
 
Demon117 said:
Will it depend on the angle [itex]\alpha[/itex]?

Yes it will depend on α .
 

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