Calculating the Optical Appearance of Rolling Rings: A Methodology by Ø. Grøn

In summary, the post discusses the methodology used by Øyvind Grøn to produce the "optical appearance" plot in Fig. 9 Part C in his paper on space geometry in rotating reference frames. This plot shows the positions of emission events where the emitted light arrives at a fixed point of time at the point of contact between a rolling ring and the ground. Grøn's method involves calculating the positions of points on a rolling ring at retarded points of time with reference to a stationary frame. The post also describes a verification process used to create a similar plot and mentions the transformation of coordinates to account for relativistic effects. Finally, it asks if anyone has solved the problem using a different approach.
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This post is about the methodology required to produce the Fig. 9 Part C “optical appearance” plot as calculated by Øyvind Grøn in "Space geometry in rotating reference frames: A historical appraisal". http://areeweb.polito.it/ricerca/relgrav/solciclos/gron_d.pdf
The positions of points on a rolling ring at retarded points of time were calculated with reference to K0 by Ø. Grøn [111]. The result is shown in Fig. 9. Part C of the figure shows the “optical appearance” of a rolling ring, i.e. the positions of emission events where the emitted light from all the points arrives at a fixed point of time at the point of contact of the ring with the ground. In other words it is the position of the points when they emitted light that arrives at a camera on the ground just as the ring passes the camera.

In 2014 I contributed to a thread (on another forum, pm me for the details) that verified how the Fig. 9 Part C plot described above was created. This verification used t_Axle to represent the time at each event when photons would be emitted at a specific location on the circumference of the rolling ring x_SP, y_SP at t_SP where t_SP = t_Axle. The “optical appearance” chart produced in Part C is useful in that the emitted photons travel in a straight line from their emission point to the observer and can be measured as such. Also any point on the circumference of the ring can be regarded as a point on the tip of a wheel spoke that can be length contracted to identify the correct emission point at relativistic velocities. Section 7 of Grøn's conclusion refers to this transformation.
7. One may introduce local coordinates in the neighbourhood of arbitrary points on a rotating disk by means of differential transformations from coordinates in the inertial rest frame of the axis. These transformations may be chosen so that the spatial line element at constant time in the rotating system has Euclidean form. Also one may calculate a non-vanishing Riemann curvature tensor for spacetime in the rotating frame by employing the usual formulae valid in a coordinate basis. This does not mean, however, that the 3-space is flat and spacetime is curved in the rotating frame. Taking account of the non-vanishing structure coefficients in a non-coordinate basis one finds that the 3-space is curved and spacetime is flat in the rotating frame.

Grøn didn't really give much away on how he created his Part C plot so it's interesting to note that the plot shown below satisfies the rules given below even if the results are slightly different. The methodology to the solution is very simple as the oval shape shown in Grøn's Fig. 9 Part C is just the valid solutions for |t_Axle| - Sqrt[x_SP^2+y_SP^2] = 0. i.e. where the time the axle takes to get from the emission time to the camera point equals the length of a straight line from the emission point to the point where the camera is i.e. the photons direct paths to point 1.

In the image below the ring is rolling from left to right at 0.866025c
the Peak Value x, y, t is -3.464, 2, -4
which is also a valid solution for |t_Axle| - Sqrt[x_SP^2+y_SP^2] = 0.

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Even the axle velocity between the emission events remains constant throughout.

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Has anybody solved this problem in a different manner?
 
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I would probably solve it in the axle frame and then just transform to the ground frame.
 

Related to Calculating the Optical Appearance of Rolling Rings: A Methodology by Ø. Grøn

1. How does the methodology by Ø. Grøn calculate the optical appearance of rolling rings?

The methodology uses mathematical equations and simulations to determine the optical properties of rolling rings, taking into account factors such as the material properties of the rings and the angle of incidence of light.

2. What is the significance of calculating the optical appearance of rolling rings?

Understanding the optical properties of rolling rings can have practical applications in fields such as optics, materials science, and engineering. It can also provide insights into the behavior of light and matter at a microscopic level.

3. How accurate is Ø. Grøn's methodology in predicting the optical appearance of rolling rings?

The methodology has been extensively tested and validated through experiments, and has been found to accurately predict the optical properties of rolling rings in various scenarios. However, like any scientific model, it may have limitations and uncertainties.

4. Can the methodology be applied to other types of objects besides rolling rings?

The methodology can be adapted for use with other objects, as long as they have similar properties and behavior as rolling rings. However, it may require some modifications and adjustments to accurately calculate the optical appearance.

5. How can the results of this methodology be used in practical applications?

The results of this methodology can be used to design and optimize the optical properties of rolling rings for specific applications, such as in optical devices or materials with desired light absorption or reflection properties.

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