Calculating Velocity for an Orbit Near Earth's Surface

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To calculate the velocity required for a ball to achieve orbit near Earth's surface, one must consider the curvature of the Earth, which drops 32 feet for every 30,000 feet horizontally. The necessary orbital velocity is approximately 21,289 feet per second, as provided by the instructor, though the derivation of this figure is unclear to the participants. The discussion also raises a related question about the time it takes for an object with zero initial vertical velocity to fall 32 feet, indicating a need for further exploration of gravitational equations. Participants express confusion over the calculations involved in determining both the orbital velocity and the time of fall. Understanding these concepts is essential for grasping the physics of near-surface orbits.
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Homework Statement



"If the curvature of the Earth were such that the surface dropped 32 feet for every 30,000 feet, how fast would a ball have to be thrown to put it into a orbit near the ground?"


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I have no idea where to begin. Do I use a formula for velocity?

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I think it's mainly sort of an 'concept' question. If the ball was in orbit, and the ground level dropped 32 feet after going 30000 ft, how far should the ball drop after traveling that same distance?
 
Thanks for the quick response. I was leaning toward that as well but then the instructor released the answer (21,289 ft/sec) but didn't explain how he arrived at that so now I am confused.
 
That's exactly the sort of answer we are after. But you didn't answer my question. But I'll continue anyway. Next question is how long does it take for a ball with zero initial vertical velocity to drop 32 ft?
 
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