Calculating Velocity in Simple Harmonic Motion: A Homework Problem

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the velocity of a rider on a mechanical bull that moves in simple harmonic motion (SHM). The bull has a specified mass, amplitude, and frequency, and the rider is trying to determine the upward velocity at the moment they leave the saddle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of SHM equations, particularly focusing on the relationship between angular frequency, amplitude, and velocity. There are questions about the meaning of the phase angle and its relevance to the problem. Some participants are attempting to clarify the initial conditions and the role of gravity in the context of the motion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the phase angle and its implications for the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the bull's acceleration and gravity, suggesting a deeper examination of the conditions at the moment the rider leaves the bull.

Contextual Notes

There is some confusion regarding the definition and application of the phase angle in the context of SHM. Participants are also grappling with the implications of gravity on the motion of the bull and the rider.

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Homework Statement



While visiting friends at Cal State Chico, you pay a visit to the Crazy Horse Saloon. This fine establishment features a 200- kg mechanical bucking bull that has a mechanism that makes it move vertically in simple harmonic motion. Whether the “bull” has a rider or not, it moves with the same amplitude 2.13 m and frequency 0.385 Hz. Being from Texas you decide to ride it the “macho” way by NOT holding on. To no ones surprise you go flying out of the saddle. While waiting for your bruises and pride to heal, you decide to calculate how fast upward you were moving when you left the saddle.

Homework Equations



V(ox) = -\varpi*A*sin\phi

The Attempt at a Solution



I notice it is a simple harmonic motion question so I am using the equation relative to SRH velocities. Since it is a vertical motion, the gravity and mass play a role in the velocity. The angle I understand to be zero degrees?

I first found angular frequency by taking 2*pi*frequency. Then multiplied it by amplitude to get 5.15. The answer is 3.18. I know there is something small I'm missing, probably the mass factor, but I've been stuck for a while and could use some help...
 
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What angle?

Do you understand what that equation means?
 
The equation assumes t = 0 and v(ox) = v(x). I figured the initial velocity would be the instant the rider left the bull. the angle is the phase angle, and without an x direction, I didn't think there would be any angle. and since amplitude and frequency were given, that left me only a V(ox) variable to calculate.

I also tried to use:

Vmax = \varpi*Amplitude, from which I was initially under the impression was the correct way to do it but I am not returned close to the correct answer
 
Sounds like you're confused about what a "phase angle" is. The real equation is
v = -A \omega\,\mathrm{sin}(\omega t)
The \phi in your equation is equal to \omega t - it increases with time. It's not a real angle in space.

Now, think about what happens when you leave the bull flying upward: it means that the acceleration of gravity is not strong enough to hold you down to the bull. In other words, the bull would be accelerating downwards faster than the acceleration of gravity. Figure out how fast the bull is moving when that condition is met, and I think you'll have your answer.
 
I think I am confused about "phase angles" as well.

Figure out how fast the bull is moving once it exceeds the acceleration of gravity?
Does that mean I am still using the SHM veloctiy and acceleration equations?
 

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