Calculating Volume of Revolution: y=x-x^3 from 0 to 1 about the y-axis

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The discussion revolves around calculating the volume of revolution for the curve y = x - x^3 from 0 to 1 about the y-axis. The initial calculations led to a negative volume, indicating an error. It was clarified that when integrating with respect to y, the limits should be from 1 to 0, not 0 to 1. The correct volume formula for revolution around the y-axis is V = 2π ∫_0^1 x f(x) dx, which resolves the issue. Ultimately, the correct volume of revolution is found to be 4π/15.
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Hi could you please say if this is right or wrong and if it is not where I went wrong.

I got the question:

Find the volume of the area between y=x-x^3 from 0 to 1 revolved about the y-axis.

So here are my workings:

V = \pi \int_0^1{x^2dy}
V = \pi \int_0^1{x^2 \frac{dy}{dx}dx}
\frac{dy}{dx} = 1 - 3x^2
V = \pi \int_0^1{x^2 \left(1 - 3x^2 \right)dx}
V = \pi \int_0^1{x^2 - 3x^4 dx}
V = \pi \left[ \frac{x^3}{3} - \frac{3x^5}{5} \right]_0^1
V = \pi \left \left( \frac{1}{3} - \frac{3}{5} \right) - \pi(0)
V = \frac{-4\pi}{15}
 
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Well, the volume can't be negative, can it? :smile:

As far as I remember, the volumne you get by revolving the area below f(x) between points A and B around the X axis is:

V = \pi \int_a^b{f(x)^2dx}

Edit: argh, just noticed you're revolving it around the Y axis. Sorry.
 
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Grrr, I just wrote up a load of code in Latex and it didn't post up.

I think the problem is that when I am integrating:

x^2 - 3x^4

Should I separate it into the parts above and below the x - axis, work out the area of the two parts individually?
 
I presume you want to find the volume of revolution of the area between that curve f(x) and the x-axis (between x = 0, 1), revolved around the y-axis?

Wouldn't that just be:
V = 2\pi \int_0^1{xf(x)dx}
 
Originally posted by Doc Al
I presume you want to find the volume of revolution of the area between that curve f(x) and the x-axis (between x = 0, 1), revolved around the y-axis?

Wouldn't that just be:
V = 2\pi \int_0^1{xf(x)dx}
Yes but I've never heard of that equation before, that only briefly reminds me of something I did in statistics.
 
Originally posted by Zurtex
Yes but I've never heard of that equation before, that only briefly reminds me of something I did in statistics.
If you take a point (x, y) on the graph, connect it to the X axis and revolve the line around the Y axis, you would get a very thin but high donut. The perimeter of the donut is 2\pi x and its height is y, bringing its volum to 2\pi xy or 2\pi xf(x). That's how you get to:

V = 2\pi \int_0^1{xf(x)dx}
 
Ahh, I think I found your mistake. Since you integrate by dy, you need the take Y limits and not the X limits. You are asked to find the volume between X = 0 and X = 1, those points are (0, 1) and (1, 0). So when you integrate by Y, the definite integral needs to be from 1 to 0, and not from 0 to 1. This is why you got a negative volume, and if you solve it with the equation Zurtex posted you would in fact get 4pi/15.
 
Thanks loads :D

Knew it was just some sill mistake. Although I don't understand your volume thingy but then I am only doing A level further maths.
 
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