Calculating Water Flow: Comparing GPM Measurements for Different Methods"

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The discussion focuses on comparing two methods for measuring water flow rates in GPM: using a flowmeter (Case 1) versus a stopwatch and deposit method (Case 2). It highlights that the measurements from these two methods will yield different results due to the losses associated with nozzle configurations. The user seeks information on the discharge coefficients for various nozzles to better understand these discrepancies. A resource is provided that lists discharge coefficients for different nozzle types, which could aid in the calculations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding how nozzle arrangements affect flow measurements.
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I´m wanting to somehow demonstrate that if we measure the water flow on the header according to squetch for “Case 1” (see attached PDF) using a flowmeter previously installed, we are not going to get the same number for the GPM as if we proceed according to squetch for “Case 2”, where in order to “spare the cost of a flowmeter”, we disconnect the hose, direct the water flow into a deposit, and measure time elapsed via a stopwatch. Here, according to the volume of the deposit, and the elapsed time, we calculate the GPM. If we are discharging to the atmosphere we are getting rid of the losses that represent the nozzle, which has a number of holes drilled on it´s top plate. So I was wondering if there is a table somewhere on the net which would show the “equivalent lengh of pipe” for different kind of nozzle arrangements.

Thank you.
 

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capterdi said:
I´m wanting to somehow demonstrate that if we measure the water flow on the header according to squetch for “Case 1” (see attached PDF) using a flowmeter previously installed, we are not going to get the same number for the GPM as if we proceed according to squetch for “Case 2”, where in order to “spare the cost of a flowmeter”, we disconnect the hose, direct the water flow into a deposit, and measure time elapsed via a stopwatch. Here, according to the volume of the deposit, and the elapsed time, we calculate the GPM. If we are discharging to the atmosphere we are getting rid of the losses that represent the nozzle, which has a number of holes drilled on it´s top plate. So I was wondering if there is a table somewhere on the net which would show the “equivalent lengh of pipe” for different kind of nozzle arrangements.

Thank you.

I'm not sure what you are asking. You want to calculate the flowrate of the water in case 2 by measuring the time it takes to fill the container? Or, you're trying to calculate the flowrate in case 1 by using the method in case 2 and need to know the discharge coefficient for various nozzles?

CS
 
stewartcs said:
I'm not sure what you are asking. You want to calculate the flowrate of the water in case 2 by measuring the time it takes to fill the container? Or, you're trying to calculate the flowrate in case 1 by using the method in case 2 and need to know the discharge coefficient for various nozzles?

CS

What I would like to know is the discharge coefficient for various types of nozzles.

Thank you.
 
capterdi said:
What I would like to know is the discharge coefficient for various types of nozzles.

Thank you.

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/orifice-nozzle-venturi-d_590.html

Half way down the page under the section labeled Nozzles. It gives various values and cites the source which will give you even more information on what to use (presuming you can access that source).

Hope this helps.

CS
 
CS,

OK. I´ll take a look to that source and see what I find.

Thanks.
 
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