Calculating Weight Increase in Car Crash: 12 Stone Occupant at 30mph

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To calculate the weight increase of a 12 stone occupant in a car crash at 30mph, it's essential to focus on momentum rather than actual weight increase, as the occupant's weight remains constant. The momentum generated at this speed can exert significant forces during a sudden stop, potentially exceeding the strength of seat mounts rated for 50 stone. The discussion emphasizes that the kinetic energy transfer during a crash is critical, and the stopping distance affects the force experienced by the occupant. The work-energy principle can be applied using the equation W = -E_kin1, leading to the force calculation F = -mv²/2s. Understanding these dynamics is crucial for assessing safety in road traffic accidents.
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1. Can you be of any help, I need a simple (if that is possible) equation to help
me determine the weight increase of a 12 stone occupant of a car doing 30mph
coming to a dead stop?




2. Don't have a clue



3. This is a very general question to put into a slide show presentation on Road Traffic Accidents, you may have to dumb down a bit but any help is appreciated.
 
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The traveling persons weight as such does not increase (talking non-relativistic speeds), rather his momentum.
 
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Thank you for that but its not what I meant, I realize that there are many forces which act on a body on impact I was looking for something to work out the max weight that will as you say with the momentum of a 30mph dead stop will tear out a passenger seat from its floor mountings, say rated to 50st max.
 
Well, I have yet to see a car where the seatbelt is connected to the chair, usually (in European cars) I see them connected to the cage frame.
As I see it applied, there is usually a stopping distance. If you take the stopping distance to 0, then all the kinetic energy is applied to the person via the seatbelt (no work is done), and that is not the real case.
Check out the examples here:

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/seatb.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/carcr2.html#cc1

You can use the work equation:
W=\Delta E_{kin}=E_{kin2}-E_{kin1}=-E_{kin1} since the car is stopped.

Now on the other hand
W=Fs \Rightarrow Fs=-E_{kin1} \Rightarrow F=\frac{-E_{kin1}}{s} \Rightarrow F=-\frac{mv^{2}}{2s}

But that is all explained with examples in the links provided.
 
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