Calculating Winch Power for an Inclined Ore Car: 30 Degree Incline | 950kg Mass

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The problem involves calculating the power required by a winch to pull a loaded ore car with a mass of 950kg up a 30-degree incline. The car accelerates to a speed of 2.2 m/s over 12 seconds and then moves at a constant speed. The original poster seeks to understand the discrepancy between their calculated power and the answer provided in the textbook.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of tension in the rope and the forces acting on the ore car. There is a focus on the components of gravitational force and how they relate to tension and power. Questions arise regarding the use of mass in calculations and the units of power derived from the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to splitting forces and the relationship between power, force, and speed. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or outcome yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating potential misunderstandings related to the application of mass in their calculations and the conversion of power units. The original poster's calculations yield a result that differs from the textbook, prompting further inquiry into the assumptions made.

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Homework Statement


A loaded ore car has a mass of 950kg and rolls on rails with negligible friction. It starts from rest and is pulled up a mine shaft by a cable connected to a winch. The shaft is inclined at 30.0 degrees above the horizontal. The car accelerates uniformly to a speed of 2.2 m/s in 12.0 seconds and then continues at a constant speed.

a) what power must the winch motor provide when the car is moving at constant speed?


Homework Equations


Well, Power=Force x Velocity
Force = T

The Attempt at a Solution


Well to find the Tension in the rope, I found the component of G that was opposite the Tension and set it to -Fs. Then I set -Fs + T = 0 => Fs = T. Looking at The triangle under the cart I used sin(30)= Fs/g => Fs= gsin(30) which = 4.9 N

Since power = F*V I got P= (4.9)(2.2) = 10.78 kW. The back of the book says its 10.2 kW though. I am just wondering where I went wrong
 
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cooltee13 said:
Well to find the Tension in the rope, I found the component of G that was opposite the Tension and set it to -Fs. Then I set -Fs + T = 0 => Fs = T. Looking at The triangle under the cart I used sin(30)= Fs/g => Fs= gsin(30) which = 4.9 N

I can't understand what you do with Fs and T. You do not use the mass of the cart. 4.9 N * 2.2 m/s will give you 10.78 W and not 10.78 kW
 
Oh ok, well then care to give me some advice on how to solve the problem then?
 
cooltee13 said:
Oh ok, well then care to give me some advice on how to solve the problem then?

The Idea of splitting the force of gravity in components parallel and perpendicular to the ground was ok. As was power = force * speed
 

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