Calculating Work Against Gravity for Orbital Launch

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The discussion focuses on calculating the work done against gravity for transporting materials to construct a lunar observatory. The first part involves determining the gravitational potential energy required to lift a 12,000 kg payload to an orbit of 4,100 km, using the formula U=-GMm/r. Participants clarify that the work done must consider the Earth's surface as the starting point, rather than launching from infinity. There is confusion regarding the application of the potential energy equations, but eventually, one participant realizes the correct approach to the problem. The conversation highlights the importance of accurately applying gravitational equations in orbital mechanics calculations.
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Homework Statement



Materials to construct an 12000 kg lunar observatory are boosted from the Earth's surface to an orbit of 4100 km. In orbit, the observatory is assembled and launched to the moon, 384000 km from Earth.
Compare the work that must be done against Earth's gravity on the two legs of the trip. (Hint: work done against gravity is change in potential energy)

Work to get to orbit: ________ joules
Work to get from orbit to moon: ______________ joules

Homework Equations



possibly U=-GMm/r or U=-GMm/Re + mgh?

Me=5.97*10^24 kg
G=6.637*10^-11
Re=6.37*10^6 m

The Attempt at a Solution



for a)
U=-G(5.97*10^24 kg)(12000 kg)/(6.37*10^6 m+4100*10^3 m)
=-4.54*10^11 joules

(both neg and positive of this answer did not work)

mgh gives you almost the same thing, so i don't think that's the answer either (but feel free to prove me wrong). I've talked with my friend, and she tried -GMm/(Re+alt)-(-GMm/(Re)) and it also didn't work.

didn't try b) because my answers for a were wrong...help?

thanks!
 
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sour_lemon_1k said:
Materials to construct an 12000 kg lunar observatory are boosted from the Earth's surface

possibly U=-GMm/r or U=-GMm/Re + mgh?

erm :redface: … you've launched it from infinity. :rolleyes:

(and it's never "+ mgh" … that only works when h << r :wink:)
 
hey thanks for replying! yes it's launched from infinity...but what next! ?__?

also when you say that only works when h<<r, doesn't that apply for all cases? because r = radius of planet + altitude (aka h) so r always > h...unless I am misunderstanding what << means lol.

thanks for helping again!
 
sour_lemon_1k said:
yes it's launched from infinity

No, it's launched from the Earth's surface …

you have to subtract that energy, don't you?​

(my r was the Earth's radius, and my h was the height above it)
 
wait...I GOT IT! thank you! :biggrin:
 
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