Calculating Work Done: A Secondary Two Homework Problem

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The discussion revolves around a secondary two homework problem related to calculating work done and understanding energy conversion. The student seeks help but initially fails to follow forum guidelines, prompting a reminder to use the proper template for assistance. The conversation highlights the concept of energy storage, particularly how electrical energy is converted into mechanical energy by a motor, and how potential energy is stored when an object is elevated. The importance of grasping these physics concepts is emphasized, with encouragement for the student to seek clarity rather than certainty in their understanding. The thread remains open for further discussion despite some confusion and procedural issues.
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hi! so I'm in secondary two, and so far in my syllabus we have covered up to work done. now this is my homework, and I'm not sure whether my answer is accurate, could you help me with this?



(I haven't learned the equations yet)



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Hello Warp, and welcome to PF. Please use the template: we are house trained not to provide assistance unlees you use the template, for good reasons. See the guidelines.

In this case you get an encouragement question in return: suppose the train of cars pauses at the top for a night. The electricity is switched off. Where is the (electrical?) energy stored that gets converted into kinetic energy the next morning ?

The physics is a little more instantaneous: you want to describe the happening as a two-step process, where two conversions take place, one after the other.
 
BvU said:
Hello Warp, and welcome to PF. Please use the template: we are house trained not to provide assistance unlees you use the template, for good reasons. See the guidelines.

In this case you get an encouragement question in return: suppose the train of cars pauses at the top for a night. The electricity is switched off. Where is the (electrical?) energy stored that gets converted into kinetic energy the next morning ?

The physics is a little more instantaneous: you want to describe the happening as a two-step process, where two conversions take place, one after the other.

oh my god I'm sorry for not following the rules but thank you for the question. does that mean i have to describe the motor? i am really confused
 
In a way, yes. Not how it works internally, but what is does in a physics, mechanics sense: A motor converts electrical energy into mechanical energy. It does work dragging the train up from a certain level to a higher level in a certain time.
Apparently there is some energy stored in height: if you drop a brick on a bottle you can crush it (and crushing requires energy). And a train at the top of the ramp can acquire kinetic energy from going down, whichever way it got at the top: if Popeye eats spinach and puts it there it will behave exactly the same as when the motor dragged it up there a millisecond or a day ago. So it's not spinach energy, nor electric energy once the train is at the top.

And it's good you feel confused. Better confused and looking for understanding one way or another than certain and dead wrong.
 
Thread locked because of inappropriate username choice...
 
berkeman said:
Thread locked because of inappropriate username choice...
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berkeman,thread is not locked.?
 
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