Calculating Work for Monatomic Gas Expansion

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by a monatomic gas during expansion from an initial volume V_i = V_0 to a final volume V_f = 3V_0, using the pressure relationship provided. Participants clarify that the lowercase 'p' in the equation refers to pressure, not momentum, and emphasize the need to integrate the pressure function to find work. The heat flow during the expansion is also explored, with a suggestion that the process may be isothermal, leading to the equation Q = nRT ln(V_f/V_i). The conclusion drawn is that since the computed heat flow Q is positive, heat is flowing into the gas during the expansion. The integral for work must be solved to fully determine the work done.
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Homework Statement



one mole of a monatomic gas expands from V_i = V_0 to V_f = 3V_0 according to the relationship:

p = P_0[1 - 0.9sin( (pi(V - V_0))/4V_0 )]

a) compute the work done by the gas as it expands from V_i = V_0 to V_f = 3V_0

b) compute the net heat flow during this expansion

c) does heat flow into or out of the gas during this expansion?

Homework Equations



PV = nRT where P is pressure, V is volume, n is moles, R = 8.314 constant, T is temperature

Q = W = nRT ln (V_2/V_1) where W is work, Q is heat, V_2 and V_1 is volume

not sure what else

The Attempt at a Solution



I haven't got far because i don't understand the given relationship, what is the difference between the capital and lowercase p, is the lowercase p stand for momentum? i doubt it..

i used the second eq and tried to solve for work but didn't know how to implement the relationship given, where does it come into play?

any help appreciated...
 
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scholio said:

Homework Statement



one mole of a monatomic gas expands from V_i = V_0 to V_f = 3V_0 according to the relationship:

p = P_0[1 - 0.9sin( (pi(V - V_0))/4V_0 )]

a) compute the work done by the gas as it expands from V_i = V_0 to V_f = 3V_0

b) compute the net heat flow during this expansion

c) does heat flow into or out of the gas during this expansion?


Homework Equations



PV = nRT where P is pressure, V is volume, n is moles, R = 8.314 constant, T is temperature

Q = W = nRT ln (V_2/V_1) where W is work, Q is heat, V_2 and V_1 is volume

not sure what else

The Attempt at a Solution



I haven't got far because i don't understand the given relationship, what is the difference between the capital and lowercase p, is the lowercase p stand for momentum? i doubt it..

Ignore lowercase. p is just the pressure P.

Start with the definition of work:

W = \int_{V_0}^{3V_0} Pdv

Substitute for P:

W = \int_{V_0}^{3V_0} P_0(1 - \sin(\pi(V - V_0)/4V_0 )dv

AM
 
thanks AM, so does it become:

W = P_0[1 - 0.9sin( (pi(V - V_0))/4V_0 )](3V_0) - P_0[1 - 0.9sin( (pi(V - V_0))/4V_0 )](V_0) ?

how does the V and the V_0 come into play within the given function?

cheers
 
scholio said:
thanks AM, so does it become:

W = P_0[1 - 0.9sin( (pi(V - V_0))/4V_0 )](3V_0) - P_0[1 - 0.9sin( (pi(V - V_0))/4V_0 )](V_0) ?

how does the V and the V_0 come into play within the given function?

cheers

sorry double posting, 'edit' option wasn't available for some reason.
part b asks to determine the heat flow during the expansion, am i correct to assume that the pressure changes as does the volume, thus the expansion is isothermic

and should use eq Q_isotherm = W = nRT ln (V_2/V_1) where n = 1 mole, R = constant 8.314, T is not specified in problem, assumed constant and V_2 = 3V_0, V_1 = V_0

plugging in those values, for Q (heat) i got Q = 9.13T where T is the temp, constant

part c, asks if heat flows into or out of the gas during the expansion --> i said, since Q = 9.13T is positive, it means heat is flowing into the gas

correct??
 
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scholio said:
thanks AM, so does it become:

W = P_0[1 - 0.9sin( (pi(V - V_0))/4V_0 )](3V_0) - P_0[1 - 0.9sin( (pi(V - V_0))/4V_0 )](V_0) ?

how does the V and the V_0 come into play within the given function?

cheers

You just have to figure out the integral:

W = \int_{V_0}^{3V_0} P_0(1 - \sin(\pi(V - V_0)/4V_0 )dv

which is of the form:

W = \int_{V_0}^{3V_0} P_0dv - \int_{V_0}^{3V_0} P_0\sin(kV - \phi) dv

Work that out. Remember P_0 and V_0 are constants.

AM
 
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