Calculation of absorption spectra

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of absorption spectra using spectrophotometric data, specifically focusing on the methods for determining absorbance and absorptance. Participants explore the implications of different equations and their applicability in plotting absorption curves for materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents two methods for calculating absorption: using the relationship \(R + A + T = 1\) to derive absorptance and using the logarithmic definition of absorbance \(A = \log_{10}\left(\frac{1}{T}\right)\).
  • Another participant emphasizes the distinction between absorptance and absorbance, suggesting that the first method is more appropriate for plotting absorption spectra.
  • A participant notes that absorptance reflects the actual amount of light absorbed by the material, while absorbance is derived under the assumption of exponential attenuation.
  • One participant raises a question about the negative values for absorption obtained using the second method and seeks advice on how to address this in post-processing.
  • A later reply suggests comparing "internal absorbances," which are related to internal transmittance and corrected for reflection losses, as a more accurate approach.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriate method for calculating absorption, with some advocating for the use of absorptance while others discuss the relevance of absorbance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which method is definitively better for comparing absorption characteristics of different samples.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions and applications of absorptance and absorbance, as well as the handling of negative values in absorption calculations.

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I am trying to plot the absorption curve of a given sample using some spectrophotometric data. The data that I've collected are transmittance ##T## and reflectance ##R## – the ratios of transmitted and reflected light power to incident light power. However, using two different methods I got two very different answers:

(1) When radiation impinges on a material, we know that:

$$R+A+T=1 \tag{1}$$

Therefore, if we have obtained ##R## and ##T## using a spectrophotometer, then we can simply solve for ##A## and plot the results.

(2) Most textbooks define absorbance (sometimes called optical density, OD) as:

$$A=\log_{10}\left(\frac{1}{T}\right) \tag{2}$$

If we know ##T## using a spectrophotometer then we can plot absorption using Eq. 2.

Here are my results from both methods. The top curve is calculated using Eq. 1 (dashed/dotted lines are ##T## and ##R##). The bottom curve was calculated using Eq. 2 (but the answer had to be multiplied by 100 so that it appears as a percentage).

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So, which is the correct method and why? :confused:

Also, using the second approach we get negative values for absorption (on the ordinate of the graph). How is this usually solved in the post-processing?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 

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I see. So to plot an absorption spectrum one has to use absorptance (Eq. 1)?

Clearly, absorptance gives the actual amount that is deposited in the material (absorption) by subtracting all the transmitted/reflected/scattered light. I know that absorbance (Eq. 2) is derived by assuming an exponential attenuation. This quantity is described (e.g. in your link) as the density of the material or the amount of attenuation the light receives. Which method would be more appropriate for comparing the absorption characteristics of two different samples?
 
I would always prefer to compare "internal absorbances". The internal absorbance Aint is related to the internal transmittance Tint by
Aint = - log10(Tint).
The internal transmittance is defined as the ratio of the radiant power transmitted by the sample to the incident radiant power, fully corrected for reflection losses and any window absorption. Regarding the spectroscopic nomenclature have a look at Applied Spectroscopy Spectroscopic Nomenclature - SAGE Publishing
 
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