Can a Thief Escape a Building Using a Rope?

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A 75 kg thief is attempting to escape a building using a rope that can only support 58 kg. The calculations reveal that to avoid breaking the rope, he must accelerate downward at less than 2.2 m/s². Discussions highlight confusion regarding the need for upward versus downward acceleration, with consensus that he must descend to escape. The tension in the rope will change based on his acceleration, and if he exceeds the rope's limits, it will break. Understanding the relationship between weight, tension, and acceleration is crucial for solving this problem.
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Homework Statement


A 75 kg thief wants to escape a building. He has a rope that supports 58kg how can he escape?

Homework Equations


f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


75kg*g = W
58kg*g = T
T - W = 75kg*a
a = (t-w)/m
If he applies a acceleration upwards at 2.2 m/s^2 he would survive.
When i do the calculation I get a negative number, which would mean he would be applying a acceleration downwards which doesn't make sense. Why is that?
In my equation T is positive
 
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brycenrg said:

Homework Statement


A 75 kg thief wants to escape a building. He has a rope that supports 58kg how can he escape?

Homework Equations


f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution


75kg*g = W
58kg*g = T
T - W = 75kg*a
a = (t-w)/m
If he applies a acceleration upwards at 2.2 m/s^2 he would survive.
When i do the calculation I get a negative number, which would mean he would be applying a acceleration downwards which doesn't make sense. Why is that?
In my equation T is positive
Why would he want to climb upward to get out of a building? Shouldn't he lower himself down from the building?
 
Mark44 said:
Why would he want to climb upward to get out of a building? Shouldn't he lower himself down from the building?
That makes sense he has to accell downwards to go. But what it means is if he accels downwards more that 2.2 then the rope wouldn't support him right?
 
brycenrg said:
That makes sense he has to accell downwards to go. But what it means is if he accels downwards more that 2.2 then the rope wouldn't support him right?
I think you are confused. If he was just hanging from the rope, with no accleration, the rope would break, right? If he slid down the rope, just barely hanging onto it (which would burn his hands), he would be acclerating at just under ##9.8 \frac m {sec^2}##. Would the rope break then?
 
Mark44 said:
I think you are confused. If he was just hanging from the rope, with no accleration, the rope would break, right? If he slid down the rope, just barely hanging onto it (which would burn his hands), he would be acclerating at just under ##9.8 \frac m {sec^2}##. Would the rope break then?
I am, I want to say if he used friction to slow him down to just = to T and under that force he would be ok. Which is under 2.2m/s^2.
But it seems like your saying he has to be going faster than gravity, which doesn't make sense to me
 
brycenrg said:
I am, I want to say if he used friction to slow him down to just = to T and under that force he would be ok. Which is under 2.2m/s^2.
But it seems like your saying he has to be going faster than gravity, which doesn't make sense to me
Yes, it doesn't make sense, and that isn't what I was saying, either.

The acceleration due to gravity is acting downward. What is the tension on the rope if his downward acceleration, relative to the fixed rope, is less than 2.2 m/sec^2? What's the tension on the rope if his downward acceleration, again relative to the fixed rope, is more than 2.2 m/sec^2? You're getting bogged down in the minutiae of the problem and are missing the bigger picture.
 
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