Can I change topology of the physical system smoothly?

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The discussion revolves around the possibility of smoothly changing the topology of a physical system represented by a potential field in a ##U(1)## bundle, specifically focusing on the implications for the Chern number associated with that bundle. Participants explore the relationship between changes in the gauge field and the invariance of the Chern number, as well as the effects of parameter-dependent Hamiltonians on the system's properties.

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  • Some participants propose that changing the potential field smoothly does not affect the Chern number, as it is an invariant of the bundle and remains the same for any connection.
  • Others argue that while the Chern form may differ, its integral over the surface, which defines the Chern number, will remain unchanged despite changes in the gauge field.
  • A later reply questions whether it is possible to smoothly transition between two different gauge fields while maintaining the properties of the bundles involved.
  • One participant introduces an example involving k-dependent Hamiltonian operators and discusses the phase ambiguity of eigenstates, suggesting that the Berry's connection changes smoothly with the parameter t.
  • There is a query about whether the Chern number can change its value at certain parameter values during the smooth evolution of the Hamiltonian and the associated eigenstates.

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Participants express differing views on whether a smooth change in the gauge field can affect the Chern number, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain unresolved.

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The discussion involves complex mathematical concepts related to topology, gauge theory, and quantum mechanics, with participants relying on specific definitions and assumptions that may not be universally agreed upon.

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I am encountering this kind of problem in physics. The problem is like this:
Some quantity ##A## is identified as a potential field of a ##U(1)## bundle on a space ##M## (usually a torus), because it transforms like this ##{A_j}(p) = {A_i}(p) + id\Lambda (p)## in the intersection between patches ##{U_i} \cap {U_j}##. So there should be a ##U(1)## bundle corresponding to this potential field and a Chern number is defined to characterize this bundle (or the physical system)
##c = \frac{i}{{2\pi }}\int_T F ##
Where ##F## is the field strength ##F = dA##.

One may change the physical system smoothly so that the potential field also changes smoothly. Let's say the system is changing with ##t##, and the potential field becomes a smooth function ##A(t)##, while the transform rule ##{A_j}(p) = {A_i}(p) + id\Lambda (p)## is still valid.

So the question is, is this smooth change of system possible to change the Chern number ##c## ?
 
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lichen1983312 said:
I am encountering this kind of problem in physics. The problem is like this:
Some quantity ##A## is identified as a potential field of a ##U(1)## bundle on a space ##M## (usually a torus), because it transforms like this ##{A_j}(p) = {A_i}(p) + id\Lambda (p)## in the intersection between patches ##{U_i} \cap {U_j}##. So there should be a ##U(1)## bundle corresponding to this potential field and a Chern number is defined to characterize this bundle (or the physical system)
##c = \frac{i}{{2\pi }}\int_T F ##
Where ##F## is the field strength ##F = dA##.

One may change the physical system smoothly so that the potential field also changes smoothly. Let's say the system is changing with ##t##, and the potential field becomes a smooth function ##A(t)##, while the transform rule ##{A_j}(p) = {A_i}(p) + id\Lambda (p)## is still valid.

So the question is, is this smooth change of system possible to change the Chern number ##c## ?

I think you are changing the connection (gauge field) not the bundle. The Chern number is an invariant of the bundle. It is the same for any connection. Although the Chern form will be different its integral over the surface will be the same.
 
lavinia said:
I think you are changing the connection (gauge field) not the bundle. The Chern number is an invariant of the bundle. It is the same for any connection. Although the Chern form will be different its integral over the surface will be the same.
Is this possible? let's say there are two principal bundles ##{P_1}## and ##{P_2}## over ##M##, and ##{A_1}## and ##{A_2}## are corresponding gauge fields. Is it possible to smoothly change ##{A_1}## into ##{A_2}##?
 
Maybe the question is not so clear, I will use an example.
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A physical system is represented by k-dependent Hamiltonian operators ##\hat H(k)##, where ##k## is a point in the torus. Each linear operator ##\hat H(k)## has a set of discrete eigen-functions such that ##\hat H(k)\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle = {E_n}(k)\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle ##, where ##{E_n}(k)## are energy eigen-values and are real. ##\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle ## is a smooth function over ##k## and the Cartesian coordinates ##r##. ##\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle ## is required to be normalized such that ##\left\langle {{u_m}(k,r)} \right.\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle = {\delta _{m,n}}## where ##\left\langle {{u_m}(k,r)} \right.\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle ## are defined as ##\left\langle {{u_m}(k,r)} \right.\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle = \int {dr} \,u_m^ * (k,r){u_n}(k,r)##.

However there is a phase ambiguity of ##\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle ##, since
##\hat H(k){e^{i\Lambda (k)}}\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle = {e^{i\Lambda (k)}}\hat H(k)\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle = {E_n}(k){e^{i\Lambda (k)}}\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle ##
So ##\left| {u{'_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle = {e^{i\Lambda (k)}}\left| {{u_n}(k,r)} \right\rangle ## is also smooth over ##k## and ##r##, if ##{\Lambda (k)}## is smooth.
For simplicity, assume there is only one energy eigen state. Now define a special connection, called the Berry's connection as
##A = \left\langle {u(k,r)} \right|{d_p}\left| {u(k,r)} \right\rangle = \left\langle {u(k,r)} \right|\frac{\partial }{{\partial {k^\mu }}}\left| {u(k,r)} \right\rangle d{k^\mu }##
(##\left\langle {u(k,r)} \right|\frac{\partial }{{\partial {k^\mu }}}\left| {u(k,r)} \right\rangle ## is pure imaginary)
so if let ##\left| {u(k,r)} \right\rangle \to \left| {u'(k,r)} \right\rangle ##
##A \to A' = A + id\Lambda ##

In the case of the graph used here, we may define smooth potential fields ##{A^A}## and ##{A^B}## on patches A and B. on the boundary set the transition function as ##{t^{AB}} = {e^{i\Lambda (k)}}## , using ##F = dA##, the Chern number is
##c = \frac{i}{{2\pi }}\int_T F ##

Now if I let the Hamiltonian ##\hat H(k)## depend on a parameter ##t## in a smooth way, the energy eigen-state ##\left| {{u_n}(k,r,t)} \right\rangle ##as well as the Berry's connection ##A(t)## change with ##t## smoothly.

is it possible at certain ##t##, the Chern number change its value ?
 

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