Can I get a 40KN force from a hydraulic cylinder powered by an electric motor?

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A hydraulic system can indeed generate a force of 40kN, even when powered by an electric motor connected to a car battery. To achieve this force, a motor in the range of 300-400W is recommended, which translates to approximately 25-35 amps at 12V. It's essential to consider power losses due to efficiency, as both the motor and pump may operate at only 60-80% efficiency. Additionally, proper wire gauge and appropriately rated switches and fuses are crucial to handle the startup current, which may exceed 25A. Overall, with the right specifications, a tipping trailer can be effectively powered by a hydraulic system.
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Im thinking of designing a tipping trailer for a car. I need a force of 40KN exerted to tip but would this be too much for driving with an electric motor powered by the car battery. If not what size of motor and pump would I need? thanks
 
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With hydraulics, you can get absolutely any force with absolutely any power input. You can hand-crank 40kN with hydraulics. In fact, I'm pretty sure you could find a hydraulic car lift that does just that.

Now, if you have a force, say these 40kN, and the time in which you want to raise the load a certain distance, you can get power. Say you want to raise 40kN load 1 foot in 1 minute. That works out to roughly 200W. Factor in loses, both mechanical and electrical, and you are probably looking for a 300-400W motor. At 12V, that works out to something in the 25-35 amp range. You should be able to draw that from a car battery.
 
Thank you for reply, very helpful
 
Just for completeness the equation K^2 is using is ..

Power = Force * velocity = force * distance/time

Force in Newtons
Distance in Meters
time in seconds
Power in watts

If drawing 25A think about the wire gauge needed and use appropriatly rated switch and fuse. A standard 30A rated switch might not last very long as the startup current could be much higher than 25A.

Perhaps assume the motor is only 60-80% efficient? The pump?
 
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