Can I use L'Hospitals rule here? (seem like i use it too often )

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The discussion centers on the application of L'Hôpital's Rule to find the derivative of the function f(x) = x^(4/3) at x = 8. Participants conclude that L'Hôpital's Rule is not applicable in this case because it assumes the function is differentiable, which must be proven first. Instead, the derivative can be directly calculated using the power rule, where the derivative of x^n is n*x^(n-1). Thus, for n = 4/3, the derivative at x = 8 is 4/3 * 8^(1/3).

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Does l'hospitals rule work here?:

[tex]\lim_{h\to_0}\frac{f\left(8+h\right)-f\left(8\right)}{h}[/tex] for [tex]f\left(x\right)=x^\frac{4}{3}[/tex]

then i would get,

[tex]\lim_{h\to_0}\frac{f\left(8+h\right)}{1}[/tex]

then,

[tex]=\frac{\left(8\right)^\frac{4}{3}}{1}[/tex] ?

is that it?...
 
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No, you can't use it there, in my opinion. The question is asking you to work out the derivative of x^{4/3} at x=8, thus you can't invoke l'Hopital which a priori assumes the function to be differentiable. A minor quibble, but given the way you've written it it seems clear that you're being asked to prove the derivative exists, so assuming it does is not allowed.
 
i tried factoring according to this:

[tex]a^4-b^4=\left(a^2+b^2\right)\left(a+b\right)\left(a-b\right)[/tex]

but I am stuck because i can't get a multiple of h to cancel the denomiator's h.
 
Where did the power of 1/3 vanish to? (Note I don't have a simple solution in mind. But it is easy to show that x^4 is differentiable, as is x^3, and hence x^1/3 by the inverse function theorem, hence x^{4/3} is diffible, and it all follows some what simply from these big sounding theorems).
 
...we haven't touched those theorems yet.

but, [tex]a=\left(8+h\right)^\frac{1}{3}[/tex] and [tex]b=\left(8\right)^\frac{1}{3}[/tex]
 
x^n is differentiable at any "x", no matter the value of "n>0". The derivative is equal to n x^(n-1). Just plug n=4/3 and x=8 to see what you get.
 
dextercioby said:
x^n is differentiable at any "x", no matter the value of "n>0".

I think he's been asked to show that, at least for n= 4/3.
 
dextercioby said:
x^n is differentiable at any "x", no matter the value of "n>0". The derivative is equal to n x^(n-1). Just plug n=4/3 and x=8 to see what you get.

I see it equals what i wrote using l'hospitals rule, but through what derivative what did you go through to determine that?
 

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