Can multiple motors drive single axle (water pump here)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and design considerations of using multiple motors to drive a single axle for a water pump application. Participants explore the implications of using brushless versus brushed motors, the configuration of motors, and the complexities involved in controlling them.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using 3-6 identical 18v brushless DC motors to drive the axle, questioning whether to run them in series or parallel and the benefits of each configuration.
  • Another participant raises concerns about the complexity of using multiple brushless motors with a single speed controller, suggesting that it might be simpler to use brushed motors instead.
  • A participant notes that if the motors are wired in parallel, they should run at the same speed, but questions the advantages of brushed motors over brushless in this context.
  • One participant explains that brushless motors require precise commutation and synchronization, indicating that using one controller per motor may be necessary to ensure they operate in phase.
  • Concerns are expressed regarding the mechanical arrangement of the motors, particularly the challenges of using multiple chains or belts to drive the axle effectively.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to using multiple motors, with differing opinions on the choice between brushless and brushed motors, as well as the configuration and control methods for the motors.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential complications with speed control and mechanical arrangements, but do not resolve the implications of these challenges on the overall design.

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I have a dilemma with the design of a device I want to build which is acquiring the correct size motor (shape & power) in my price range (even finding one within specs). I have found that the motors from cordless drills are ideal for this application (due to size, price and availability) so they meet all my requirements as long as I can use multiple motors to turn one shaft.

I need 3-6 motors to drive the axle of a water pump. I can easily fit 6-8 in my design if I need the power and battery capacity is not a concern at all.

If I use multiple motors I will use all the same models so they are identical.

If multiple motors are used, let's say 18v brushless DC, can I run them in series (would there be any benefit to this)? I can make the battery bank 18-20v or multiples there-of. I can easily run a heavy bus bar if running in parallel so current isn't an issue here. Is one better than the other?
 

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Won't using multiple brushless motors complicate the speed controller? You can't use one controller to drive them all. Might be simpler to use brushed motors.
 
CWatters said:
Won't using multiple brushless motors complicate the speed controller? You can't use one controller to drive them all. Might be simpler to use brushed motors.

If the motors are all the same and they are wired in parallel, wouldn't they all run at the same speed? I'm not sure why brushed (universal??) motors would be better.

I was trying to design the motor layout for using multiples and it seems to get complicated (in my arraingement) when figuring out the path of the belt/chain. I'm wondering if there are problems with using 2 chains or belts so I would have 2 sprockets or pullies on the axle to be driven and I would have 2-3 motors on each belt/chain. I'm a little more concerned with using chains in this situation.
 
On a brushless motor the speed controller also does the comutation. It switches power to each winding in turn based on the rotor position. The rotor position is typically sensed by monitoring the voltage on an un powered winding.

So its not enough that they run at the same speed. They also have to be in phase...or use one controller per motor.
 

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