Can sound distort the fabric of space?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores whether low-frequency sound can distort the fabric of space, examining the relationship between sound waves, spacetime curvature, and gravitational effects. Participants delve into theoretical aspects, mathematical formulations, and the implications of sound waves in various media.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that sound waves, through their interaction with a medium, can contribute to spacetime curvature due to the stress-energy tensor associated with the medium.
  • Others argue that while sound waves may curve spacetime, they do not emit gravitational radiation, particularly compressional sound waves, which are said to not radiate gravitational waves.
  • A later reply questions the significance of gravitational radiation compared to the energy density and pressure of the medium, suggesting that these factors are orders of magnitude more impactful on spacetime curvature.
  • Some participants discuss the conditions under which sound waves might produce detectable gravitational effects, noting that high-amplitude pressure waves would be necessary for relativistic effects.
  • There is a debate about the nature of spacetime and whether it can be treated similarly to water, with some clarifying that spacetime is a more complex entity that does not directly support sound waves.
  • One participant speculates about the potential effects of a nuclear blast shock front on spacetime curvature compared to sound waves, raising questions about energy density and distance effects.
  • Another participant mentions that the energy density associated with a nuclear explosion would be significantly smaller than that of a stationary mass, suggesting that detectable gravitational effects would be minimal.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the effects of sound on spacetime curvature, with no consensus reached on the significance of gravitational radiation versus the contributions from energy density and pressure in the medium.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of sound and spacetime, the unresolved nature of mathematical steps regarding gravitational effects, and the complexity of interactions in non-ideal fluids.

  • #31
Well yes but that is for what starts the explosion.
What does the edge of the expanding void do to space time as it sweeps up
The air and converts it to a dense shell of plasma. It probably contains a great deal of mass in a comparatively thin shell before it starts to implode.
 
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  • #32
Andy SV said:
What does the edge of the expanding void do to space time

Not much in a practical sense. Even at 1000 times the density of ordinary solids, which is larger than the largest compression ratio I can get from the web site, the gravitational effects of the matter in the weapon would only be detectable by sensitive devices like torsion balances. Any analysis of the weapon's effects could assume flat spacetime in the weapon's vicinity as an extremely good approximation.
 

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