Can this Secant-Tangent Equation be Simplified Further?

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The discussion centers around simplifying a secant-tangent equation involving lengths AD and AC. The initial attempt at solving resulted in an incorrect equation, leading to confusion about the values. Participants suggest that the user should divide both sides of the equation correctly to isolate AC. They also recommend using trigonometric relationships and the Pythagorean Theorem to find the radius, which simplifies the problem. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for correct mathematical manipulation and alternative approaches to solve for AC.
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Homework Statement


Is it possible to simplify this even further?
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Homework Equations


This is a Secant-tangent equation.
Secant: AD = 18/radical 3 AC = ??

The Attempt at a Solution


I cross multiplied to get 18=324radical 3 (AC)
and in the end i got 0 = (18radical3) (AC) which makes no sense

so is there a different way to simplify that?
 
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Cyclopse said:

Homework Statement


Is it possible to simplify this even further?
28b4d3b.jpg


Homework Equations


This is a Secant-tangent equation.
Secant: AD = 18/radical 3 AC = ??

The Attempt at a Solution


I cross multiplied to get 18=324radical 3 (AC)
Are you trying to solve for AC?
Cyclopse said:
and in the end i got 0 = (18radical3) (AC) which makes no sense
When you divide both sides by 18, you will be left with 1 on the left side, not 0.

If you are trying to find AC, divide both sides by 324√3.
Cyclopse said:
so is there a different way to simplify that?
 
Mark44 said:
Are you trying to solve for AC?

Yes.
Here is the original question
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It doesn't seem to me that you have enough information.

How did you go from AB = 18 and AD = 18/√3 to 18 = 324√3 * AC?
 
Mark44 said:
It doesn't seem to me that you have enough information.

How did you go from AB = 18 and AD = 18/√3 to 18 = 324√3 * AC?

I'm really terrible at maths...that's why I'm here.
 
Draw a radius from O to B, and call its length r. The radius OB is perpendicular to AB, so that ABO is a right triangle.

Let θ = the angle at A.

Then, from your given information,

cos(θ) = 18/(r + 18/√3), and
sin(θ) = r/(r + 18/√3)

Now you have two equations in two unknowns, so you should be able to solve for both unknowns, although you only need r. Once you know r, it's pretty easy to get AC.
 
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Start out like Mark44 said by drawing a radius from O to B, and call its length r, but then apply the Pythagorean Theorem to the right triangle ABO to find r.

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
Start out like Mark44 said by drawing a radius from O to B, and call its length r, but then apply the Pythagorean Theorem to the right triangle ABO to find r.
That's simpler than what I suggested. Simple is good!
 
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