Capacitive Keyboard: Calculating Effective Capacitance and Charge Transfer

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a capacitive keyboard design, specifically focusing on calculating effective capacitance and charge transfer during key depression. The problem involves understanding the configuration of capacitors with a dielectric material (mica) and the implications of key movement on capacitance and charge.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of key depression on capacitance, questioning the effect of distance between capacitor plates and the role of the dielectric material. There is confusion regarding whether capacitance can be zero when the plates are in contact.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the configuration of the capacitor when the key is depressed, noting the presence of the mica dielectric even when the air gap is eliminated. There is an acknowledgment of misunderstanding, but no consensus has been reached on the calculations or implications yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, particularly the role of the mica sheet and the distances involved in both the depressed and non-depressed states of the key. There is an emphasis on understanding the setup rather than solving the equations directly.

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Homework Statement



On one capacitative keyboard, each key has a capacitor bottom plate 7[mm]×7[mm] with a 0.4[mm] thick sheet of mica (κ≈7) on top of it; the capacitor top plate is the same size, glued to the key bottom, usually 4[mm] from the bottom plate ; the bottom plate is 5[V] higher potential than the top .
a) what is the effective capacitance when the key is fully depressed, so there is no air gap?
b) . . . how much charge is on the bottom plate when the key is depressed?
c) what's the effective capacitance when the key is not depressed? {careful-mica is still there}
d) . . . does charge enter or leave the bottom plate while the key moves downward? How much, for the full motion?
e) what is the Energy change during the key depression? so, what is the average Electric Force on the top plate?


Homework Equations


C= A/d κ/4pi k
Q=VC



The Attempt at a Solution



I don't think I'm understanding how this thing works, because on part a, if the key is pressed so that there is no air gap, that means there is no distance between the 2 plates? So that would mean the capacitance would be zero? But then that makes the next answer zero as well and I don't fell like that is right. So I think I'm having a problem understanding what's going on in this problem.

Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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burns12 said:
I don't think I'm understanding how this thing works, because on part a, if the key is pressed so that there is no air gap, that means there is no distance between the 2 plates?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

There's still the dielectric mica separating the plates (0.4 mm).
 
When the key isn't depressed, the plates are separated by 4 mm. In that 4 mm gap, there's a mica sheet 0.4 mm thick. The remaining 3.6 mm is filled with air. When the key is depressed, the top plate moves down until only the mica sheet is sandwiched between the two places.
 
Ahhh ok, that's what I was missing. Now I feel dumb haha

Thanks though. I'll see if I can scramble my way through it now.
 

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