Capacitor circuit time constant problem

AI Thread Summary
The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for a capacitor's charge to reach one quarter of its initial value, using the time constant formula (τ = RC). The initial attempt at the solution incorrectly used Vf instead of Vinitial in the charge equation. The correct approach leads to the conclusion that the time in time constants should be calculated using the natural logarithm of 1/4, confirming that the answer is indeed related to the time constant. The final consensus is that the correct answer aligns with the friend’s calculation, indicating a misunderstanding in the initial reasoning. The problem emphasizes the importance of using the correct initial voltage in capacitor charge calculations.
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Homework Statement


How long does it take in time constants ( = RC) for the charge on the capacitor in the circuit
shown below to reach one quarter its initial value?

Homework Equations


C=Q/V
time constant=RC
Vc = Vo * (e)^(-t/RC)

The Attempt at a Solution


From C=Q/V
I get
Q=VC
so for the final charge, Qf, to be 1/4 of it's value
Qf= 0.25 * Vf * C
rearrange to get
Vf = 4 * Qf / C
then I assume I can ignore Qf and C and plug in 4 to the discharging equation:

4= 1 * e^(-t/RC)
then take the natural log of both sides

ln(4) = -t/RC
t= ln(4) * (-RC) = 1.39s
the problem: my friend got a different answer: ln(1/4)s , which makes sense because it yields -1.39s (and is then multiplied by -1) , so I am wondering if I did something incorrectly?

I also am not sure if either of us did it correctly because it is asking for the answer in time constants? That being said it should happen between 1 and 2 time constants because at 1 it would be at 36%, and 2 it would be at 13%.

thanks in advance for your help.
 

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helppls said:
t= ln(4) * (-RC) = 1.39s
That is incorrect. Your friend got it right.
helppls said:
Qf= 0.25 * Vf * C
No. It should be
Qf= 0.25*Vinitial*C.
 
ahhhh, thank you!
 
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