Car driving around a banked curve (with friction)

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To determine the maximum speed a 1400 kg car can take a banked curve of radius 80.0 m at a 13.0-degree angle without sliding, the centripetal force and friction must be considered. The centripetal force is calculated using F_r = mv²/r, while the frictional force is F_f = μN, where μ is the static coefficient of friction (1.0) and N is the normal force. A free body diagram is recommended to identify which forces contribute to the centripetal force. Understanding that centripetal force is a net force rather than a separate force is crucial for solving the problem. This approach clarifies the relationship between the forces involved in maintaining the car's motion on the curve.
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Homework Statement


A concrete highway curve of radius 80.0 m is banked at a 13.0 degree angle.

What is the maximum speed with which a 1400 kg rubber-tired car can take this curve without sliding? (Take the static coefficient of friction of rubber on concrete to be 1.0.)


Homework Equations


F_r = \frac{mv^2}{r}

F_f = \mu N


The Attempt at a Solution


I have a few pieces here, but I'm not completely sure how to put them together.

There's a rotational force pulling towards the center of the circle:
F_r = \frac{mv^2}{r}
Where mass and radius are given.

Also, there is a frictional coefficient:
F_f = \mu N
Where \mu is 1.0 and N is mgcos\theta (at least I believe it is... or is it just mg?) where m, g, \mu, and \theta are given.

I had a relatively easy time understanding problems in which there was no friction, but I can't quite figure this out. Anyone have any advice to push me in the right direction? :)
 
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You already noted that the centripedal force is towards the center of the circle, so all you need to know now is which forces have a component pointing horizontally towards the center. I suggest that you draw a free body diagram with all the forces. This will help you see which contribute (and what components) to the centripetal force.
 
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Awesome... Thank you very much! It all makes sense now. I kept treating centripetal force as a force in itself instead of a net force. Thanks again!
 
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