Car Periodic Vibration/Modulation Captured with App - Some Questions

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The discussion centers on a periodic vibration issue experienced in a car after replacing the front tires prior to an MOT in the UK. The user utilized a vibration app to analyze the frequency response, identifying peaks at approximately 16, 20, 32, and 35 Hz, which may indicate unbalanced or out-of-round tires. The user suspects the new tires are the source of the vibration, despite the wheels being balanced and aligned. Recommendations include rebalancing the tires and considering warranty replacement if the issue persists.

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Hi Folks,

Prior to leaving my car in for the annual MOT (UK), there were no vibrations to be felt at any speed. However, to pass the MOT I was advised to replace the 2 front tyres as they were worn. Ever since then, there is a periodic vibration which I can distinctly feel at 85mph but it is also occurring at other speeds (at any speed? I am not sure). I can't help but feel its the tyres is responsible but I am not sure how they can induce a periodic vibration.

So I decided to try a vibration app on my phone which i taped to the headrest of the passenger seat as this position acted like a good amplifier to the frequencies at play.
I got the time domain response and converted it to the freq domain as attached. I am just trying to see is there a correlation with the wheel speed (18.8Hz - 85mph based on tyre diameter)
From the freq response, there are interesting peaks at ~ 16, 20, 32 and 35 Hz. They look like sidebands to me and very symmetrical about ~25Hz.
Any ideas what is happening? I am quite baffled how I can feel a periodic vibration or a periodic modulation, where is it coming from?

Note that since it passed the MOT, I presume there are no issues with the CV joints. I also had a look myself and did not see any leakage from the boots.

The wheels are custom and so there are hub centric rings or spigots to locate the wheel to the hub. Some people say these can be responsible for vibrations but I am not convinced especially for periodic vibrations.
The wheels are balanced and aligned (well at least the OEM maintenance garage say so)

Any ideas? Cheers
 

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Its most likely one of two problems:

1- unbalanced tire
2- out of round tire

I would recommend getting a rebalanace, and if that can't fix it you may try to have the tires replaced under warranty.
 

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