Castigaliano's Theorem for cantilever beams

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The discussion revolves around deriving the deflection of a cantilever beam using Castigliano's theorem, specifically addressing the origin of the term b^3 in the solution. Participants clarify the meaning of the notation <x-b>, indicating it represents the maximum of (x-b) and zero, which is crucial for integration. The integration process is highlighted, emphasizing that it must account for the discontinuity at b, requiring separate integrations on either side of this point. Ultimately, the correct integration limits and approach lead to the final expression, confirming that only the relevant range needs to be integrated. The conversation concludes with acknowledgment of the correct method and the importance of understanding the function's behavior over the specified limits.
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Homework Statement


Hi I am trying to derive an expression for the deflection in a cantilever beam using castigliano's theorem.
I have found and attached an example of the solution. I understand the most of what is going on in the attached solution but I don't know where the b^3 came from in the line (b)
castigliano for beam deflection.PNG


Homework Equations


see attached[/B]

The Attempt at a Solution


When I perform the integration from line (a) i get
L^2/6(2L-3b). Can anybody explain where the b^3 in line (b) comes from[/B]
 

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hatchelhoff said:
When I perform the integration from line (a) i get
L^2/6(2L-3b)
Remember what the <x-b> notation means. How will you integrate wrt x over 0 to l?
 
Are the angular brackets in <a-b> something to do with a singularity function, that is only turned on for certain cases.
 
hatchelhoff said:
Are the angular brackets in <a-b> something to do with a singularity function, that is only turned on for certain cases.
They mean (in the context of moments in beams etc.) max{a-b, 0}.
 
for max{x-b, 0}. I think x-b was chosen as the max in the attached example. so does this mean that <x-b>
can now be change to (x-b) ?
 
hatchelhoff said:
for max{x-b, 0}. I think x-b was chosen as the max in the attached example. so does this mean that <x-b>
can now be change to (x-b) ?
No.
x is the variable of integration and takes values from 0 to l. Draw a graph of <x-b> over that range. How are you going to integrate it?
 
I am having difficulty drawing the graph of <x - b> because I don't have a value for b yet. can you give me a further hint please.
 
hatchelhoff said:
I am having difficulty drawing the graph of <x - b> because I don't have a value for b yet. can you give me a further hint please.
I just meant a schematic graph, it does not have to be exact. x has some range. b is a point within that range.
 
you also mentioned about integrating from 0 to L. This would give me ((L^2)/6)*(2L-3B)) - ((0^2)/6)*(2(0)-3B)). is this correct ?
 
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hatchelhoff said:
you also mentioned about integrating from 0 to L. This would give me ((L^2)/6)*(2L-3B)) - ((0^2)/6)*(2(0)-3B)). is this correct ?
No. You cannot integrate until you have figured out what to do with the <x-b>.
Have you tried to sketch a graph of <x-b> over the range 0 to L? Remember that 0<b<L. What does it look like?
 
  • #11
I have plotted two charts with different values for b. One chart plots b at 0.1. the other chart plots b at 0.9.
I see in both cases that some of the <x-B> values are below the x-axis and some of the <x-b> are above the x-axis.
 
  • #12
hatchelhoff said:
some of the <x-B> values are below the x-axis
By definition (see post #4) it is never below the x axis.
 
  • #13
ok. So i guess I have to integrate between the limits of <x-b> greater than 0 and less that L. but how do i know if x-b is greater than 0 if I don't have a value for b.
 
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hatchelhoff said:
ok. So i guess I have to integrate between the limits of <x-b> greater than 0 and less that L. but how do i know if x-b is greater than 0 if I don't have a value for b.
b is a given unknown. You do not need to know its value. Your answer will include a reference to it and be valid for all values of b.
How would you integrate a function that has a discontinuity or suddenly changes slope at some point?
 
  • #15
You would have to perform two integrations. the limits of Integration1 would be from the end to the discontinuity. The limits of Integration2 would be from the discontinuity to the other end. you would then add these integrations together.
 
  • #16
hatchelhoff said:
You would have to perform two integrations. the limits of Integration1 would be from the end to the discontinuity. The limits of Integration2 would be from the discontinuity to the other end. you would then add these integrations together.
Right, so do that.
 
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I performed one integration and I got the correct answer. I integrated using the limits b and L. My answer was (1/6)*((L^2)*(2L-3B) + B^3).
haruspex thanks for you patience and help in getting me to the correct answer. I take it that I only needed to integrate as far as the discontinuity and did not need to integrate the other side !
 
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hatchelhoff said:
I performed one integration and I got the correct answer. I integrated using the limits b and L. My answer was (1/6)*((L^2)*(2L-3B) + B^3).
haruspex thanks for you patience and help in getting me to the correct answer. I take it that I only needed to integrate as far as the discontinuity and did not need to integrate the other side !
Yes, you do not need to integrate the range where it is zero.
 
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