Cat and Momentum: Final Speed of Sled 2 in Ice Sled Jumping Problem

[NAkid]

Homework Statement

Two 21.0 kg ice sleds are placed a short distance apart, one directly behind the other, as shown in the figure. A 3.41 kg cat, initially standing on sled 1, jumps across to sled 2 and then jumps back to sled 1. Both jumps are made at a horizontal speed of 4.04 m/s relative to the ice. What is the final speed of sled 2? (Assume the ice is frictionless.)

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution

(mass of cat + mass of sled)*(horizontal speed of cat) = (mass of sled)*(final speed of sled 2) - (mass of cat)*(speed of cat with respect to ground)

-- how do i find the speed of cat with respect to ground

 

[kamerling]

Your formula doesn't make sense. The speed of the cat with respect to ground is just the speed of the cat with respect to the ice.
You can use conservation of momentum for the cat and sled_2 The cat starts out with a momentum of (jumping speed of cat) * (mass of cat) and sled_2 starts out with a momentum of 0. After the cat jumps on the sled they will now have the same speed.
so [(mass of cat)+(mass of sled_2)] * (speed sled_2 after first jump) should be equal to this.
once you've found the speed of sled_2 after the first jump you can use conservation of momentum to see what happens if the cat jumps off

 

[Moetasim]

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I would approach this problem by first identifying the known and unknown variables and using the appropriate equations to solve for the unknown. In this case, the known variables are the masses of the sleds and cat, the initial speed of the cat, and the assumption that the ice is frictionless. The unknown variable is the final speed of sled 2.

To find the speed of the cat with respect to the ground, we can use the concept of conservation of momentum. We know that the total momentum of the system (cat + sleds) before and after the jumps must be equal. This can be expressed mathematically as:

(mass of cat + mass of sleds)*(initial speed of cat) = (mass of sleds)*(final speed of sled 2) + (mass of cat)*(final speed of cat with respect to ground)

Since we know the initial speed of the cat and the masses of the cat and sleds, we can rearrange this equation to solve for the final speed of the cat with respect to the ground:

final speed of cat with respect to ground = (mass of cat + mass of sleds)*(initial speed of cat) - (mass of sleds)*(final speed of sled 2) / mass of cat

Once we have the final speed of the cat with respect to the ground, we can plug it back into the original equation to solve for the final speed of sled 2. This would give us the final answer for the problem.

In addition, we can also use the equations for conservation of energy to check our solution. Since the ice is frictionless, the total energy of the system (kinetic + potential) before and after the jumps must also be equal. This can be expressed mathematically as:

initial kinetic energy of cat + initial potential energy of cat + initial kinetic energy of sleds = final kinetic energy of cat + final potential energy of cat + final kinetic energy of sleds

We can plug in the known values for the initial kinetic energy of the cat and sleds (since they are moving at the same speed), and the final potential energy of the cat (since it is at the same height before and after the jumps). This would give us an equation with only one unknown - the final speed of sled 2. Solving for this variable would give us the same answer as the first method, providing a way to check our solution.

In conclusion, as a scientist, I