Center of momentum for particle collision

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The discussion focuses on calculating the center of momentum (CM) for a particle collision involving a stationary particle of mass M and a moving particle of mass m with speed v0. Part A successfully derives the velocities of both particles in terms of the CM speed (vcm) using Lorentz transformations. In Part B, the user struggles to express vcm in terms of m, M, and v0, initially attempting to apply conservation of momentum incorrectly. The correct expression for vcm is derived as mv0 / {(M/gamma) + m}, where gamma is defined as 1/√(1 - (v0/c)²), indicating the relativistic effects at play.

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Homework Statement


Consider a collision in which a stationary particle with mass M is bombarded by a particle with mass m, speed v0, and total energy (including rest energy) Em.

PART A: Use the Lorentz transformation to write the velocities vm and vM of particles m and M in terms of the speed vcm of the center of momentum.

PART B: Use the fact that the total momentum in the center-of-momentum frame is zero to obtain an expression for vcm in terms of m, M, and v0.

The Attempt at a Solution



ok i found the part A after like a gazillion of tries

but the problem is part B. i have totally no idea... i tried to use mvm=mvM since the total momentum is 0, but i don't get the ans. almost all my answers are monstrous looking expressions

help greatly appreciated!

PS: part C was adding part A and B together to get the available energy for particle collision which i got the answer from my textbook but my textbook doesn't show how to derive it. would be great if someone could tell me how to combine part A and B to show this part C thanks
 
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wow... i found the answer after crazy amounts of trial and errors... but i still don't understand why

my solution was, since total momentum = 0 in the center of momentum frame, then the initial momentum = 0 from conservation of momentum.

so my equation was (gamma)(m)(v0-vcm) - (Mvcm) = 0

so making vcmthe subject, i find that it is = mv0 / {(M/gamma) + m}

but the problem is the answer's gamma is just using 1/ sqrt(1 - (v0/c)2), but shouldn't the gamma, which is the factor in special relativity, be using v0-vcm instead of just v0?
 

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