Centripetal acceleration of protons in an accelerator

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In a discussion about calculating the centripetal acceleration and mass of protons in an accelerator, participants confirmed that the centripetal acceleration is 9 x 10^13 m/s² and the mass is 1.78 x 10^-24 kg. The relativistic kinetic energy formula, (gamma - 1)mc², was used to find velocity, leading to confusion regarding the mass of protons. It was clarified that the mass in the formula represents the invariant mass, while part (b) refers to the relativistic mass. Participants noted that calculations yielding velocities close to the speed of light may be due to rounding errors.
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Homework Statement


In a certain accelerator, protons of kinetic energy 1.6 x 10^-7 J move round a circular path of diameter 2000m .
Calculate:
(a) the centripetal acceleration
(b) the mass

ans for a is 9x10^13 ms-2, for b is 1.78 x 10^-24 kg

Homework Equations


centripetal acceleration = v^2 / r
relativistic KE = (gamma - 1)mc^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I initially thought I could use the relativistic KE formula to find the velocity of the protons, then find the centripetal acceleration (and i got the answer, apparently, using the mass of protons as 1.67 x 10^-27, but this would contradict with the second part).

I'm not so sure why the mass of the protons would differ and how to go about getting the centripetal acceleration, otherwise ><..

thanks for any help :)
 
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Which formula did you use for the kinetic energy?
 
The (gamma-1)mc^2 one..
 
eftalia said:
The (gamma-1)mc^2 one..
Then in that case the mass in the formula represents the invariant mass of the proton, which you correctly used.

Part (b) refers to the relativistic mass.
 
OH! I see.. Okay I get the answer for the first part now but I'm confused as to how come the protons can be moving at the speed of light? Cos if so I can't find the relativistic mass since v = c and my denominator for gamma will be 0. Or is it a rounding error on my calculator?
 
eftalia said:
OH! I see.. Okay I get the answer for the first part now but I'm confused as to how come the protons can be moving at the speed of light? Cos if so I can't find the relativistic mass since v = c and my denominator for gamma will be 0. Or is it a rounding error on my calculator?
When I do the calculation, I get a value of velocity very close to c (0.99999C) - so it is probably a rounding error.
 
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Ah I see. Alright then thanks a lot :)
 
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