Chain rule with leibniz notation

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The discussion focuses on applying the chain rule to find the derivative dy/dx for the function y=f((x²+9)⁰.⁵) at x=4, given that f'(5)=-2. The correct application of the chain rule yields dy/dx=(dy/du)(du/dx), where u=(x²+9)⁰.⁵. The final calculation results in dy/dx=4/5, leading to the conclusion that the answer is -8/5. The necessity of the given f'(5) value is debated, with some participants arguing it is irrelevant for this specific calculation.

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Homework Statement



If y=f((x2+9)0.5) and f'(5)=-2, find dy/dx when x=4

Homework Equations



chain rule: dy/dx=(dy/du)(du/dx)

The Attempt at a Solution



In my opinion giving f'(5)=-2 is unnecessary as:

y=f(u)=u, u=(x2+9)0.5

dy/dx= (dy/du)(du/dx)

(dy/du)= 1
(du/dx)= x/((x2+9))0.5

dy/dx = (1)(x/((x2+9))0.5)
= x/((x2+9))0.5
dy/dx(4) = 4/(16+9)0.5
= 4/(25)0.5
= 4/5

the answer is -8/5

I would appreciate help very much.
 
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wait, how do you get f(u)=u?
 
[ScPpL]Shree;2830588 said:

Homework Statement



If y=f((x2+9)0.5) and f'(5)=-2, find dy/dx when x=4

Homework Equations



chain rule: dy/dx=(dy/du)(du/dx)

The Attempt at a Solution



In my opinion giving f'(5)=-2 is unnecessary as:

y=f(u)=u, u=(x2+9)0.5
As Annoymage pointed out, you can't assume that f(u) = u.
[ScPpL]Shree;2830588 said:
dy/dx= (dy/du)(du/dx)

(dy/du)= 1
y = f(u), so dy/dy = f'(u)
[ScPpL]Shree;2830588 said:
(du/dx)= x/((x2+9))0.5

dy/dx = (1)(x/((x2+9))0.5)
= x/((x2+9))0.5
dy/dx(4) = 4/(16+9)0.5
= 4/(25)0.5
= 4/5

the answer is -8/5

I would appreciate help very much.
 

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