Change in Angular Momentum Calculation

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To calculate the change in angular momentum for a steel disk, the initial and final angular momentum are determined using the formula Iω, where I is the moment of inertia and ω is the angular velocity. The moment of inertia for the disk is calculated as I = 1/2 m r^2, resulting in an initial value of approximately 1.96 kgm²/s. The change in angular velocity (Δω) is found to be 37.7 rad/s, leading to a change in angular momentum of 73.89 kgm²/s. Discussions also highlight the importance of using correct formulas for angular kinetic energy, with the final correct approach being 1/2 I (ω2² - ω1²). Overall, the calculations emphasize the need for accurate application of physics principles in solving angular momentum problems.
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Homework Statement


a steel disk 400mm in diameter and a mass of 48.98 kg accelerates from 6.28rad/s to 43.98rad/s calculate the change in angular momentum.


Homework Equations


final angular momentum = intial momentum

(I) final x (w) final = (i) initial x (w) intial

I= mr _2


The Attempt at a Solution



(I) initial = 48.98 x 200x10^-3_2 = 1.95 kgm_2/s


(I) final = (I) initial x (w) initial/ (w) final = 1.95 x 6.28/ 43.98 = 0.278 kg/m_2


change in angular momentum = final - initial

(I) initial x (w) initial - (I) final - (w) final

= 1.95 x 6.28 - 0.278 x 43.98 = 19.56 x 10 -3 kgm_2/s

can someone check if this correct thanks again...
 
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You calculate a change in angular momentum in part 3 after assuming the angular momentum is constant in part 2.

The angular momentum is I * ω, and since the moment of inertia I is constant, the change in angular momentum is I * Δω, where

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_moments_of_inertia )

I = m * r^2 / 2 = 48.98 kg * ( 0.4 m / 2 )^2 / 2

and

Δω = ( 43.98 - 6.28 ) rad/s.
 
so I = 3.918kgm_2/s and Δω = 37.7 rad/s

and the change in angular momentum is = I * Δω = 3.918 x 37.7 = 147.70 kgm_2/s

thanx for putting me right...
 
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EricAngle said:
I = m * r^2 / 2 = 48.98 kg * ( 0.4 m / 2 )^2 / 2

and

Δω = ( 43.98 - 6.28 ) rad/s.

This is wrong, from the handout I have the Angular Momentum = Iw(omega)

There is no division of 2. Wikipedia though helpful, isn't the best source of evidence to use because anyone can edit it.

series111 said:
so I = 3.918kgm_2/s and Δω = 37.7 rad/s

and the change in angular momentum is = I * Δω = 3.918 x 37.7 = 147.70 kgm_2/s

thanx for putting me right...

Where did you get 3.918 kgm^2/s from calculating this:

48.98 kg * ( 0.4 m / 2 )^2 / 2


I'd like to ask for help since I have the exact same question to do.

Using the same values I got this below:

Angular Momentum = Iw

I = mr^2 = 48.984 x (0.2)^2 = 1.95936 = 1.96 kgm^2/s

w2 - w1 = 43.98 - 6.28 = 37.7 rad/s^2

therefore: 1.96 x 37.7 = 73.892 kgm^2/s


The next question asks for the change in angular kinetic energy.

This is what I got:

Equation - Angular ke = 1/2Iw^2

1/2x(1.96 x (37.7)^2) = 1.39x10^3

Angular ke = 1.39 kJ

Is this correct??
 
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MathsRetard09 said:
This is wrong, from the handout I have the Angular Momentum = Iw(omega)

There is no division of 2. Wikipedia though helpful, isn't the best source of evidence to use because anyone can edit it.

The 1/2 is for the moment of inertia of a solid disk about its center perpendicular to the plane of the disk, not angular momentum. I used Wikipedia because it's a known result, and I didn't want to do this:

\begin{equation} I = \int dm \ r^2 = \int \left(\frac{M}{\pi R^2} r d\theta dr\right) r^2 = \frac{M}{\pi R^2} \int_0^{2 \pi} d\theta \int_0^R dr r^3 = \frac{1}{2} M R^2 \end{equation}
 
Yes my calculations were wrong however I did calculate them again and got the write answers through a little research :

K^2 = d^2/8 ( This is for a soild Disk i.e Steel Disk)

Where I=mk^2

Where Iw2 - Iw1 ( change in angular momentum)

As for change in angular kinetic energy you are using the correct formula just wrong values.
 
@EricAngle - appolagies haha.

@series111 - I've actually figured it all out now.

My method is wrong because above I do this: (w2-w1)^2

But the correct method is (w2^2-w1^2)

Therefore: 1/2 I (w2^2-w1^2).

But glad you replied. Cheers.
 
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