Change in electric potential energy

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The discussion revolves around calculating the change in electrical potential energy as a conducting tire's radius decreases from 32.5 cm to 10.5 cm while maintaining a charge of 4.89×10-8 C. The initial potential is 1.35E+03 V, and the new potential is 4.19E+03 V, leading to an attempted calculation of change in potential energy using the formula ΔU = qΔV. However, the calculation yields an incorrect result, prompting further exploration of the relationship between electric potential, charge, and distance. The complexity arises from the existing charge on the tire and the implications of compressing the charge as the radius decreases, leading to uncertainty in the correct approach.
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1. Homework Statement

A tire of radius 32.5 cm has a surface that is conducting. A charge of 4.89×10-8 C is then placed on the surface. The potential on the tire's surface is 1.35E+03 V. Later, suppose that some of the air is let out of the tire, so that the radius shrinks to 10.5 cm, the new potential on the tire's surface is 4.19E+03 V.

What is the change in electrical potential energy during the shrinking process?

2. Homework Equations

Change in electric potential energy = q (change in electric potential)

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Delta U = qDelta V) = (4.89e-8C)(4190J/C-1350J/C) = 1.4e-4 J

But that doesn't work.
 
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Physics197 said:
1. Homework Statement

A tire of radius 32.5 cm has a surface that is conducting. A charge of 4.89×10-8 C is then placed on the surface. The potential on the tire's surface is 1.35E+03 V. Later, suppose that some of the air is let out of the tire, so that the radius shrinks to 10.5 cm, the new potential on the tire's surface is 4.19E+03 V.

What is the change in electrical potential energy during the shrinking process?

2. Homework Equations

Change in electric potential energy = q (change in electric potential)

3. The Attempt at a Solution

Delta U = qDelta V) = (4.89e-8C)(4190J/C-1350J/C) = 1.4e-4 J

But that doesn't work.

There is an equation for V, just electric potential, that involves charge and distance (r).
 
V = KQ/r and then I can solve for the potential for both cases again...

Still doesn't help find the change in potential ENERGY
 
Physics197 said:
V = KQ/r and then I can solve for the potential for both cases again...

Still doesn't help find the change in potential ENERGY

Ok maybe I am reading this wrong but it says that the surface of the tire already has an electric potential. Then R is decreased, I guess the pressure released does work, and brings the surface to a new potential. So you need to find what the initial charge on the tire was and you can do this because you have V and R.

You know what... I am now not sure.
Its easy if all we are worried about is the point charge on the surface. But I am assuming, maybe incorrectly that the tire already has charge and we are also bringing all those charges in a circle closer together...

Sorry, and I will await anothers response
 
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