Change in Kinetic Energy for a Sliding Box

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a box sliding up a frictionless incline, where participants explore the change in kinetic energy influenced by an applied force and gravitational potential energy. The subject area includes concepts from mechanics, specifically energy conservation and forces on inclined planes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial assumption of the box's velocity and its impact on the conservation of energy equation. Questions arise about the role of the applied force and how it affects kinetic energy calculations. Some participants suggest alternative formulations of the energy conservation equation to clarify the relationships between kinetic and potential energy.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem using energy conservation principles. There is an acknowledgment of the correct answer being reached, but the conversation continues to explore the implications of forces acting on the box and their representation in energy terms.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about initial conditions, the influence of the applied force, and the definitions of work and energy in the context of the problem. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding how to account for forces in energy calculations.

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Homework Statement


A 5.0 kg box slides up a 10 m long frictionless incline at an angle of 20 degrees with the horizontal, pushed by a 40 N force parallel to the incline. What is the change in kinetic energy?

Homework Equations


Ek = 1/2 mv2
Ep = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to assume that vi was zero. Was that incorrect?

1/2 mvf2 + mgh = 0
2.5vf2 = -(5)(9.8)(10/(sin(20)))
vf2= -25.89130...
∴ Ekf = 1/2mvf2 = 64.7 N and ΔEk = 64.7 N

The correct answer is supposed to be 232.4 J. Help?
 
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Well, a couple things. You forgot to involve the 40 N force that is also in the problem -- this will affect the kinetic energy. That's what's messing up your conservation equation and giving you a negative velocity -- it's saying that both kinetic energy and potential energy increase, but that can't be.

To make it easier to solve for the change in kinetic energy, try writing the conservation of energy equation like this: $$\Delta K + \Delta U_{g} = W_{app}$$
This comes from using both energy conservation and the work-kinetic energy theorem.
 
jackarms said:
Well, a couple things. You forgot to involve the 40 N force that is also in the problem -- this will affect the kinetic energy. That's what's messing up your conservation equation and giving you a negative velocity -- it's saying that both kinetic energy and potential energy increase, but that can't be.

To make it easier to solve for the change in kinetic energy, try writing the conservation of energy equation like this: $$\Delta K + \Delta U_{g} = W_{app}$$
This comes from using both energy conservation and the work-kinetic energy theorem.

Sorry, what does ΔUg represent?
 
Oh, that's potential energy from gravity -- mgh. It's just another notation for it. Wapp also means the applied work from the 40 N force, just to clarify that too.
 
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Okay, so then:
If ΔEk + Epf = W
Then:
ΔEk = (40N)(10m) - (5kg)(9.8m/s/s)(10(sin(20)))
ΔEk = 400 - 167.58
ΔEk = 232.410... = 232.4 J

That's the correct answer! Thank you very much. I hadn't thought of just finding the total change in kinetic energy instead of finding them separately.
 
No problem -- glad you could work it out. And don't worry, finding the separate energies is perfectly fine too. Using the change just saves you a few extra steps :)
 
Wouldn't there be a net force up the plane though due to the presence of the 40N force and the horizontal component of the weight in the opposite direction, ((mg)sinθ)?

How come you guys used the work done as Fx instead of (F{net})x?
 
Easy with the question marks. Yes, there are forces involved here, and a net force up the plane, but all the problem asks for is the change in energy, so you can summarize the actions of the forces in energy conservation.
 

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