Charged capacitors connected together, find the final potential difference

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The discussion focuses on the behavior of charged capacitors connected in series and the relationship between their charges and potential differences. It clarifies that while capacitors can have different capacitances, when connected in series, they share the same charge (Q1 = Q2). The participants debate the implications of connecting two separately charged capacitors and whether they maintain the same potential difference. The calculations presented suggest a final potential difference of 71.4 V for one capacitor, but misunderstandings about charge distribution and potential differences are highlighted. Overall, the thread emphasizes the importance of understanding capacitor behavior in series connections and the conditions prior to their connection.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


C = Q/V

The Attempt at a Solution


Q1 = Q2
C1*V1 = C2*V2
2*V1 = 5*V2
V2 = 2/5*V1

V1+V2 =100
7/5*V1 = 100
V1 = 71.4 V

Can someone verify my working? Thanks!
 

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The Blind Watchmaker said:

The Attempt at a Solution


Q1 = Q2 ← How do you conclude this?
C1*V1 = C2*V2
2*V1 = 5*V2
V2 = 2/5*V1

Two different valued capacitors with the same potential difference will have the same charge?
 
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gneill said:
Two different valued capacitors with the same potential difference will have the same charge?
They are in series thus Q1=Q2. I do not get why they have the same potential difference as I assume only 1 battery is used
 
The Blind Watchmaker said:
They are in series thus Q1=Q2. I do not get why they have the same potential difference as I assume only 1 battery is used
There are two issues in your understanding. When we connect two capacitors in series using only one battery q for each is taken to be the same. Just make such a connection with two different capacitors and then argue why we take charge stored by these capacitors to be the same. But in this problem they have been charged separately to the same potential difference.
 
The Blind Watchmaker said:
They are in series thus Q1=Q2. I do not get why they have the same potential difference as I assume only 1 battery is used
Read the problem statement carefully as to how the capacitors are prepared *before* they are connected to each other.
 
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