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The discussion revolves around calculating the height (h) from which a particle slides down a frictionless track before leaving it horizontally. The participant correctly applies the principle of conservation of energy, equating potential energy (PE) and kinetic energy (KE) to find h. They express concern about whether to consider the total resultant velocity or just the vertical component when calculating the velocity at the bottom of the track. Additional insights clarify that the particle's motion involves both horizontal and vertical components, necessitating a careful analysis of projectile motion after it leaves the track. The overall approach combines energy conservation with kinematic equations to determine the correct height.
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A particle of mass m starts at rest and slides down a frictionless track as shown. It leaves the track horizontally, striking the ground as indicated. At what height h did it start above the ground?
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To find h, I started by equating the energies at the top and bottom as PE=KE, mgh=1/2mv^2, and to solve for the height, I needed to solve for the velocity, v, at the bottom.
I used a kinematic equation for the y-direction(Vf^2=Vo^2+2ad) where Vo=0, Vf= vsintheta, a=g, and d=1.25m and solved for v^2. I then plugged this v^2 into my energy equation and solved h to be 3.2m.

I am just wondering whether setting Vf=vsintheta was correct, assuming the velocity needed at the bottom is the total resultant velocity, not just the vertical component of it.
Can someone please verify this and my work and answer as well?

PS: I realize the value of theta is required for calculation and I have found that to be equal to 38.66 degrees using tan of theta

Thank you PF community!
 
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there are 3 different velocities, not just two;

the initial velocity Vo where the particle starts at rest, another one [say Vf1] where it leaves the track horizontally [that means the angle is…?] and the last Vf2 where it strikes the ground [note that the path this particle takes once it leaves the track is the projectile motion,‏where you treat Vf1 as an initial velocity].
 
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