Choosing the Best Prism for UV Separation in Solar Radiation - Thesis Guide

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The discussion focuses on selecting the best prism or diffraction method for UV separation in solar radiation for a thesis project. Fused quartz is recommended over glass due to its better UV transmission, but both materials attenuate UV differently across wavelengths. The consensus suggests that using a diffraction grating might be more effective than a prism for conserving intensity and achieving accurate measurements. Participants also mention the importance of calibrating the system to account for wavelength-dependent attenuation. The conversation concludes with inquiries about specific UV diffraction gratings and their availability.
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Hi,
I am working on my thesis which is going to be uv instrumentation using photodiodes.

I had in mind to extract the UV from the whole solar spectrum at sea level. I know that the UV band is narrow compared to visible and IR. I also wish to experiment with the various components like UVA, UVB and UVC which are part of the solar spectrum.

What type of prism do you recommend? size, material etc..

Also I would like to conserve the intensity of the radiation.

thanks
 
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Glass tends to attenuate UV, and the attenuation is strongly wavelength dependent. Can you use diffraction instead?
 
the attenuation will be greatly lowered if you use UV A radiation. What wavelengths are you using?
 
Superposed_Cat said:
What wavelengths are you using?

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trojsi said:
I had in mind to extract the UV from the whole solar spectrum at sea level.
 
Fused quartz transmits UV radiation (at least the part coming from the sun).
Larger is better, but more expensive.

I know that the UV band is narrow compared to visible and IR.
Narrow in which way?
 
Quartz is unquestionably better than glass, and it has a nice dispersion in refractive index vs. radiation wavelength. However, it still attenuates in a frequency dependent manner. (You have the same problem with going to even more exotic materials like fluorite.) That's why I suggested diffraction.

If you go with refraction, there will need to be some calibration to remove this effect.
 
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trojsi said:
Also I would like to conserve the intensity of the radiation.

That last part is almost impossible to be done with a prism because it WILL attenuates. Not only that, depending on the transmission/absorption profile, it will attenuates each wavelength differently. So not only will you not conserve the intensity, you won't get them in the same proportion to each other after the prism.

Using a spectrometer with some sort of a diffraction grating might be the best way to go, as V50 suggested. That is what is commonly used at synchrotron light sources to extract the light from the electron beam passing through an insertion device.

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I will go for diffraction. What type of diffraction do you think is best for one photodiode?

I will try to design the optical stage to get the best signal to noise ratio from the photodiode to get the best measurements. Regarding the photodiode, i will either use one sensitive to uv or else one with normal response with a diffuser.

I assume the diffraction formula with sin teta, wavelength and distance, will help me position my photodiode
 
trojsi said:
Hi,
I am working on my thesis which is going to be uv instrumentation using photodiodes.

I had in mind to extract the UV from the whole solar spectrum at sea level. I know that the UV band is narrow compared to visible and IR. I also wish to experiment with the various components like UVA, UVB and UVC which are part of the solar spectrum.

What type of prism do you recommend? size, material etc..

Also I would like to conserve the intensity of the radiation.

thanks

AFAIK, the instrumentation used in UV spectroscopy is largely the same as visible- I have a small spectrometer (Stellarnet) that operates from 200-900 nm using a single grating and line detector. In fact, Stellarnet and Ocean Optics both make spectrometers specifically designed for field measurements- why are you reinventing existing products?
 
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