Christmas Light/Switchbox Wiring

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the design and wiring of a circuit for a school project involving Christmas lights to demonstrate weight progression on a balsa wood tower. Participants explore various aspects of circuit design, including power supply options, safety considerations, and wiring configurations, specifically focusing on the use of incandescent bulbs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a project involving 100 mini incandescent bulbs and seeks advice on powering them, mentioning the need to step down the voltage from a 110v outlet.
  • Another participant suggests determining the current draw of the bulbs and recommends using a UL-approved power source for safety.
  • A clarification is made that the bulbs are incandescent, not LEDs, and the voltage per bulb is derived from dividing the total outlet voltage by the number of bulbs.
  • Concerns are raised about the safety of using mains power and the adequacy of a PC power supply for the project.
  • One participant calculates the power requirement for the bulbs to be 24 watts based on the specifications provided and questions the power output of the PC supply.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of wiring the lights in series versus parallel, with suggestions to experiment with configurations to ensure proper functionality without overheating the power supply.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of certainty regarding the power requirements and safety of different power supply options. There is no consensus on the best approach to wiring the lights, as participants propose different configurations and considerations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the current and wattage requirements for the bulbs, as well as the safety implications of working with mains power. There is uncertainty regarding the specifications of the PC power supply and its ability to handle the load.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electronics projects, particularly those involving circuit design with incandescent bulbs, as well as students working on similar school projects.

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I have a school project and part of the requirement is to build a circuit that uses light and simple parallel and series wiring to show weight progression. The weight progression being shown is weight being added to a balsa wood tower. What I'm planning on doing is building a box with 8 bars cut in it where I will attach christmas lights in the slots in between. I'm thinking about using about 100 christmas lights. I found they run brightly on about 1.1 volts. I think I'm going to have 12 lights per bar. To turn these bars on and off I have 8 switches so I'll have a separate box in which the switches would be held. I'm wondering how I would go about powering each bar. I know I have to step down the power but I'm unsure about how to go about this. Someone told me a single PC power supply would work. I have a lot of simple electronics supplies like transformers and resistors. Oh and capacitors but I don't know how useful those are. Any suggestions? I'm in America so my outlet is 110v.
 
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Welcome to PF jamekelburg.

You need to know how much current your LEDs draw at 1.1 volts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LED_circuit"

My advice would be to purchase "wall wort/s" that are UL approved for the project.
 
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Thank you for the timely response. Sorry but I didn't specify that they are mini incandescent bulbs, not LEDs. They came on a string of 100 and my wall outlet is 110v so I figured each bulb is 1.1v because I divided the power by the number of bulbs. I heard those circuits are easier to configure.
 
Considering what you have, I would still consider using some UL listed power source unless you have experience with mains power.

There is a safety issue.
 
okay so would a PC power supply work? and if not could you post an alternative?
 
Do you know how many watts your string of 100 bulbs requires? I'm not sure that a PC supply would have enough power available. Do you know how much the PC supply is rated for from the 12 volt output?
 
I honestly have no idea. I'm not too great with electricity. Here's what the plug says:
120v 0.2A 60Hz 2.5v bulbs
 
That would mean the power required would be P=IV=(0.2amp)x(120volts)=24 watts.

I don't know what power your PC supply can provide (the 12 volt dc supply line). 24 watts doesn't sound like too much. You could check-out/(experiment) with a [STRIKE]string of 8[/STRIKE] string of 12 (in series) on the 12volt output and see if they are bright enough.
 
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Okay thanks. Final thing, but will the parallel or series wiring of the lights affect it because I'm going to have to have half series and half parallel.
 
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dlgoff said:
That would mean the power required would be P=IV=(0.2amp)x(120volts)=24 watts.

I don't know what power your PC supply can provide (the 12 volt dc supply line). 24 watts doesn't sound like too much. You could check-out/(experiment) with a string of 8 on the 12volt output and see if they are bright enough.

This (bold) should have read a string of 12.

jamekelburg said:
Okay thanks. Final thing, but will the parallel or series wiring of the lights affect it because I'm going to have to have half series and half parallel.

If one string of 12 (in series) works without overheating your 12 volt PC supply, then try another string of 12 (in series) in parallel with the first string.

So yes. Parallel each of the 8 sets of 12 bulbs. I hope your supply can handle it. Give it a try.
 

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