Engineering CIRCUIT ANALYSIS: 2 resistors, Indep. Current Source, V.C.C.S - find v0

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The discussion focuses on analyzing a circuit with two resistors, an independent current source, and a voltage-controlled current source (V.C.C.S). The main goal is to find the output voltage (v_0) and the power dissipated by the V.C.C.S. Initial calculations show v_0 as approximately -5.71 V, leading to a power dissipation of around 163.2 W for the V.C.C.S. Participants emphasize the importance of correctly applying Ohm's law and understanding the contributions of each component to the overall circuit behavior. The final consensus confirms the calculations and clarifies the relationships between voltage and current across the circuit elements.
  • #31
almost

V_4ohm + V_6ohm = V_C.S(10amp) = V_V.C.C.S

Ok so I'm not good with the fancy looking formulas. lol. if you can solve for one of these...you know the other two as well
 
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  • #32
Okay, let's take it from the start. :)

VinnyCee said:
Anyways, you are saying that the P_{VCCS}\,=\,163.4\,W is correct?

Let's just start from the beginning!

i\,=\,2\,v_0\,+\,10\,A

Right?

v_o\,=\,i\,R

v_o\,=\,\left(2\,v_0\,+\,10\right)\,(4\Omega)

Right?

v_0\,=\,8\,v_0\,+\,40

So...

v_0\,=\,-\frac{40}{7}\,V

Right?

Yes.

VinnyCee said:
I need to find the power dissipated by the controlled source. P_{VCCS}\,=\,?

So, I need to use the EQs P\,=\,v\,i or P\,=\,\frac{v^2}{R}, right?

Yes, you use P = VI. But no, you can't use P = V^2/R since there is no R for the VCCS. To find P (VCCS), obtain the V and I across the VCCS, and then combine these terms as a product. Please note that you can never use P = V^2/R or P = RI^2 to calculate the power supplied/dissipated by a source, never ever.

VinnyCee said:
The i should only be for the contribution by the VCCS. So, i_{VCCS}\,=\,2\,V_0, right?

Okay... so we now know the I across the VCCS.

VinnyCee said:
Now what do I do, assuming the above is all right?

P\,=\,I\,V\,=\,I_{VCCS}\,V_{VCCS}

We know the I (VCCS) but what about the V (VCCS)?

VinnyCee said:
I_{VCCS}\,=\,2\,V_0\,=\,2\,\left(-\frac{40}{7}\right)\,=\,-\frac{80}{7}\,\approx\,-11.43\,A

Does this seem right?

Yes, I (VCCS) = -11.43A is correct. But again, what about the V (VCCS)?
 
  • #33
lol - so we have this

V_{4\Omega}\,=\,V_0\,=\,-\frac{40}{7}

and

\left(-\frac{40}{7}\right)\,+\,V_{6\Omega}\,=\,V_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,V_{10\,A}

V_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,V_{6\Omega}\,-\,\frac{40}{7}

How do I get V_{6\Omega} though?
 
  • #34
you get the voltage across the 6 ohm resistor with non other than ohm's law:

V_6 = I_6 R_6
 
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  • #35
Cool!

i\,=\,2\,V_0\,+\,10\,=\,2\,\left(-\frac{40}{7}\right)\,+\,10\,=\,-\frac{10}{7}\,\approx\,-1.43\,A

V_{6\Omega}\,=\,(-1.43\,A)\,(6\Omega)\,=\,-8.57\,V

P_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,I_{V.C.C.S.}\,V_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,(-11.43\,A)\,(-8.57\,V)\,=\,97.96\,W

doodle said:
What you did earlier in Post 22 is correct, at least as far as P (VCCS) = 163.4W is correct.

But I thought that P_{V.C.C.S}\,=\,163.4\,W ?
 
  • #36
the problem is you set V6 = V of the V.C.C.S. remember it's both resistors combined

I updated that diagram to hopefully make it more obvious
 
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  • #37
V_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,V_{6\Omega}\,+\,V_{4\Omega}\,=\,(-8.57\,V)\,+\,(-5.71\,V)\,=\,-14.28\,V

P_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,V_{V.C.C.S.}\,I_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,(-14.28\,V)\,(-11.43\,A)\,=\,163.2\,W

Finally!
 
  • #38
Good job. Practice with these circuits and you'll be able to do them in your sleep in no time
 

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