CIRCUIT ANALYSIS: 2 resistors, Indep. Current Source, V.C.C.S - find v0

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The forum discussion focuses on calculating the output voltage (v_0) and power dissipated by a Voltage Controlled Current Source (V.C.C.S) in a circuit with two resistors and an independent current source. The calculated value of v_0 is -5.71 V, derived using Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) and Ohm's Law. The power dissipated by the V.C.C.S. is determined to be approximately 163.2 W, based on the voltage across the V.C.C.S. and the current flowing through it. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correctly identifying the contributions of each component in the circuit.

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  • #31
almost

V_4ohm + V_6ohm = V_C.S(10amp) = V_V.C.C.S

Ok so I'm not good with the fancy looking formulas. lol. if you can solve for one of these...you know the other two as well
 
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  • #32
Okay, let's take it from the start. :)

VinnyCee said:
Anyways, you are saying that the P_{VCCS}\,=\,163.4\,W is correct?

Let's just start from the beginning!

i\,=\,2\,v_0\,+\,10\,A

Right?

v_o\,=\,i\,R

v_o\,=\,\left(2\,v_0\,+\,10\right)\,(4\Omega)

Right?

v_0\,=\,8\,v_0\,+\,40

So...

v_0\,=\,-\frac{40}{7}\,V

Right?

Yes.

VinnyCee said:
I need to find the power dissipated by the controlled source. P_{VCCS}\,=\,?

So, I need to use the EQs P\,=\,v\,i or P\,=\,\frac{v^2}{R}, right?

Yes, you use P = VI. But no, you can't use P = V^2/R since there is no R for the VCCS. To find P (VCCS), obtain the V and I across the VCCS, and then combine these terms as a product. Please note that you can never use P = V^2/R or P = RI^2 to calculate the power supplied/dissipated by a source, never ever.

VinnyCee said:
The i should only be for the contribution by the VCCS. So, i_{VCCS}\,=\,2\,V_0, right?

Okay... so we now know the I across the VCCS.

VinnyCee said:
Now what do I do, assuming the above is all right?

P\,=\,I\,V\,=\,I_{VCCS}\,V_{VCCS}

We know the I (VCCS) but what about the V (VCCS)?

VinnyCee said:
I_{VCCS}\,=\,2\,V_0\,=\,2\,\left(-\frac{40}{7}\right)\,=\,-\frac{80}{7}\,\approx\,-11.43\,A

Does this seem right?

Yes, I (VCCS) = -11.43A is correct. But again, what about the V (VCCS)?
 
  • #33
lol - so we have this

V_{4\Omega}\,=\,V_0\,=\,-\frac{40}{7}

and

\left(-\frac{40}{7}\right)\,+\,V_{6\Omega}\,=\,V_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,V_{10\,A}

V_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,V_{6\Omega}\,-\,\frac{40}{7}

How do I get V_{6\Omega} though?
 
  • #34
you get the voltage across the 6 ohm resistor with non other than ohm's law:

V_6 = I_6 R_6
 
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  • #35
Cool!

i\,=\,2\,V_0\,+\,10\,=\,2\,\left(-\frac{40}{7}\right)\,+\,10\,=\,-\frac{10}{7}\,\approx\,-1.43\,A

V_{6\Omega}\,=\,(-1.43\,A)\,(6\Omega)\,=\,-8.57\,V

P_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,I_{V.C.C.S.}\,V_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,(-11.43\,A)\,(-8.57\,V)\,=\,97.96\,W

doodle said:
What you did earlier in Post 22 is correct, at least as far as P (VCCS) = 163.4W is correct.

But I thought that P_{V.C.C.S}\,=\,163.4\,W ?
 
  • #36
the problem is you set V6 = V of the V.C.C.S. remember it's both resistors combined

I updated that diagram to hopefully make it more obvious
 
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  • #37
V_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,V_{6\Omega}\,+\,V_{4\Omega}\,=\,(-8.57\,V)\,+\,(-5.71\,V)\,=\,-14.28\,V

P_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,V_{V.C.C.S.}\,I_{V.C.C.S.}\,=\,(-14.28\,V)\,(-11.43\,A)\,=\,163.2\,W

Finally!
 
  • #38
Good job. Practice with these circuits and you'll be able to do them in your sleep in no time
 

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