1. Limited time only! Sign up for a free 30min personal tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Circuit Analysis

  1. Sep 10, 2012 #1

    ElijahRockers

    User Avatar
    Gold Member

    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    KQL49.jpg

    The current i_o = 8A, Voltage v_g = 480 V.

    a) Find the value of R.

    b) Find the power supplied by the voltage source.

    3. The attempt at a solution

    Well, I noted both pairs of series resistors, to make the calculations a little simpler, and what I ended up with was this delta-Y or Y-delta formation (not sure, just saw something about it on a post here while digging around).

    I figured that the voltage drops across each resistor MUST equal 480V, so I started setting up the equations, but I'm not sure if I really did it right.

    There were 5 other currents which are not given. I dubbed the one passing through 'R' to be I3, the one passing through the 4ohm resistor to be I1, the one passing through the 20ohm resistor series as I2, and the one passing through the 10ohm resistor as I4. I dubbed the current flowing through the voltage source to be Is.

    Doing what I hoped was an accurate KVL of that freakin triangle thing, as well as some KCLs, I came up with 5 equations, with a total of 6 variables including the Resistor....
    At this point I'm pretty sure I've done something wrong, but I'm not sure what?

    Part B should be easy once I find Part A.
     
  2. jcsd
  3. Sep 10, 2012 #2

    phinds

    User Avatar
    Gold Member
    2016 Award

    Huh ??? You need to be a lot more specific. The exact statement you made does not make sense.
     
  4. Sep 10, 2012 #3

    ElijahRockers

    User Avatar
    Gold Member

    Sorry, I meant the voltage drop across the entire resistor mass, that whole freaky mess of resistors that I don't understand. Not each resistor.
     
  5. Sep 10, 2012 #4

    phinds

    User Avatar
    Gold Member
    2016 Award

    OK, that makes sense. Now you need to lable your figure to go with your work. When you are asking someone to help you out, it's not a great idea to make it hard for them.

    Also, I'd suggest just doing it by loops. Forget about deltas and Ys
     
  6. Sep 10, 2012 #5

    gneill

    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    There's enough information given to work your way through the circuit, placing node voltages and currents as you go. For example, you're given that ##i_o = 8A##. So what must be the voltage drop across the 15Ω it runs through? So what then is the following node's potential?(assume Vg's negative terminal is a common reference point)
     
  7. Sep 12, 2012 #6

    ElijahRockers

    User Avatar
    Gold Member

    Actually, The figure is labeled. Right below the picture I put in the values.

    It's a voltage drop of 120V altogether. But from there on it turns into a huge mess of equations :(

    But we just learned the Delta-Y formulas in class yesterday, so hopefully that will make this easier.

    EDIT: Using the delta-y method made the system much easier to solve. yielded 3 equations with 3 variables, as opposed to the 6 or 7 I had before!
     
    Last edited: Sep 12, 2012
  8. Sep 12, 2012 #7

    gneill

    User Avatar

    Staff: Mentor

    You didn't need to deal with "a huge mess of equations". With the voltage drop of 120V you have the potential at the next node, and thus the current through the 14Ω + 6Ω resistors. A little KCL at the node and you've got the current through the 4Ω resistor, and thus the potential at its other end, then the rest of the currents fall into place and the value of R becomes trivial.
     
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook




Similar Discussions: Circuit Analysis
  1. Circuit analysis (Replies: 3)

  2. Circuit Analysis (Replies: 4)

  3. Circuit Analysis (Replies: 5)

  4. Circuit Analysis (Replies: 7)

  5. Circuit analysis (Replies: 1)

Loading...