Circular accelaration with increasing velocity?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving circular acceleration with an object that starts from rest and is accelerated along a 45-degree arc. The object has a specified mass and is released at a certain speed, prompting questions about the forces involved in circular motion and tangential acceleration.

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  • Participants explore the need for different forces to maintain circular motion and to accelerate the object tangentially. Questions arise regarding the representation of forces and their components in the context of circular motion.

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Some participants have provided insights into the forces acting on the object, including the radial and tangential components. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical representation of these forces, with questions about specific terms and their meanings still being addressed.

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Participants are discussing the implications of centripetal forces and the need for additional tangential forces to achieve the desired acceleration, indicating a complex interplay of forces in the problem setup.

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circular accelaration with increasing velocity?

Homework Statement


Object starts at rest at an angle of 0 degree's. the object is accelerated along a 45 degree arc with a radius of 2 meters to a speed of 7m/s at which point it is released. the object has a mass of .3 Kg. What is the equation for the force applied along the arc?


Homework Equations



circular accel. = V[2][/r] and other kinematics and derivatives and anti-derivatives

The Attempt at a Solution


way more work than i am going to put on here, but in the end i got a jerk function of 960.4/pi
... not fun
 
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To keep it in a circle you need a certain force. To accelerate it tangentially you need another. Superpose them to get the total force.

\vec{F}=-\frac{mv^{2}}{R}\hat{\rho}+F_{tan}\hat{\theta}

Then use basic kinematic equations with the information given to find the tangential force. Then it's just a matter of getting the magnitude, which we expect to be time dependent due to the centripetal contribution.
 


just a couple questions on that ... what does the {Rho} represent and why is it Ftan?
 


The rho is the radial unit vector. Centrifugal forces push the mass out; in order for it to stay in a circle there needs to be an equal and opposite force pulling it in. This is what the force in the negative rho direction represents.

Mathematically,

\hat{\rho}=cos(\theta)\hat{x}+sin(\theta)\hat{y}

As for the other component of the force it is directed tangentially to the circle because it increases the tangential speed of the mass.
 

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