MHB Clarifying some rules on solving quadratic equation

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The discussion clarifies the outcomes of dividing both sides of quadratic equations by factors containing x. In problem 48, dividing by (x-c) results in one root because x=c is already a solution. In problem 49, dividing by a factor leads to one unique solution, x=p+q, and the potential for a second root is limited to the condition where p equals q. The participants emphasize that quadratic equations do not always yield two distinct roots, and the nature of the roots depends on the specific factors involved. Understanding these nuances is crucial for solving quadratic equations effectively.
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Hello! I just want to clarify something about the rules on solving quadratic eqns.

I have already solved both problems but in the process of my solution some questions arise.

For example in the part of my soltution in problem 48 I have this

$(x-c)\left(\frac{a^2+b^2-ac-bc+x(2c-a-b)}{x^2-ax-bx+ab}\right)=0$

Multiplying both sides by $(x^2-ax-bx+ab)$ I get two unqueal roots. I got the correct ansswer for this one

But when I divide both sides by $(x-c)$ I only get one root.

And also for 49

In the part of my solution I have

$x\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-p}}+\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-q}}\right)=(p+q)\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-q}}+\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-p}}\right)$

Dividing both sides by $\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-q}}+\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-p}}\right)$

I get x=p+q which is the correct answer

Now my questions are the following

In prob 48, when I divide both sides of the equation by $x-c$ I end up having one root
In prob 49 when I divide both sides by $\left(\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-q}}+\frac{1}{\sqrt{x-p}}\right)$ I end up with two equal roots

I divided both sides of the equations for both problems by a factor which contain x and I ended up having one root for prob 48 and two equal roots for 49. Can you tell me why is it the case.

I know the reason why I get a single root for prob 48. It is because of the fact that x=c is a solution. But what I am having trouble with is the fact that I used the same process(dividing both sides by a factor containing x) for prob 49 and still end up with two equal roots. Please explain it. Thanks
 

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NotaMathPerson said:
49.\;\sqrt{x-p} + \sqrt{x-q} \;=\;\frac{p}{\sqrt{x-q}} + \frac{q}{\sqrt{x-p}}
Multiply both sides by \sqrt{x-p}\sqrt{x-q}:

. . 0. . (x-p)\sqrt{x-q} + (x-q)\sqrt{x-p} \;=\;p\sqrt{x-p} + q\sqrt{x-q}

. . .. . (x-p)\sqrt{x-q} - q\sqrt{x-q} + (x-q)\sqrt{x-p} - p\sqrt{x-p} \;=\;0

\text{Factor: }\;(x-p-q)\sqrt{x-q} + (x-p-q)\sqrt{x-p} \;=\;0

\text{Factor: }\;(x-p-q)(\sqrt{x-q} + \sqrt{x-p}) \;=\;0

\text{Therefore: }\;x-p-q\:=\:0 \quad\Rightarrow\quad x \:=\: p+q

 
Arent we suppose to get two roots for this problem? Since we have a quadratic equation. Anyone please explain this for me.
 
NotaMathPerson said:
Arent we suppose to get two roots for this problem? Since we have a quadratic equation. Anyone please explain this for me.

There's no guarantee that a quadratic equation has two roots. Further from the last equation the second root would be derived from:

$$\sqrt{x - q} + \sqrt{x - p} = 0$$

Which if you aren't dealing with complex numbers, which wasn't given in your original question, only has one possibility of being 0 which is [math]x = p = q[/math]. Can you see why?

As for question 48, the reason you only get one root when dividing out the [math]x - c[/math] is that you've divided out term that gets you one of the roots.
 
squidsk said:
There's no guarantee that a quadratic equation has two roots. Further from the last equation the second root would be derived from:

$$\sqrt{x - q} + \sqrt{x - p} = 0$$

Which if you aren't dealing with complex numbers, which wasn't given in your original question, only has one possibility of being 0 which is [math]x = p = q[/math]. Can you see why?

As for question 48, the reason you only get one root when dividing out the [math]x - c[/math] is that you've divided out term that gets you one of the roots.

Do you mean that the other solution is x=p=q?
Anyone? Hello?
 
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