CLIPPER CIRCUIT to clip of higher voltages without bias

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The discussion revolves around the design of a clipper circuit that can clip at higher voltage levels without the use of bias voltage. Participants explore various methods and components that could achieve this, particularly focusing on clipping at a specified voltage level, such as 3.5V, for a 10V sine input signal.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the definition of bias voltage and suggests that clipping is typically achieved by connecting a high impedance signal to a low impedance voltage source through a diode.
  • Another participant proposes the use of zener diodes in combination with other diodes for clipping, but notes that the results may not be as clean as using a voltage source.
  • A participant shares a diagram and clarifies that they are looking for a method to clip at higher levels without a DC supply.
  • One suggestion is to replace the diode and battery with LEDs or solid-state zeners like the LM385Z-2.5 for better performance at 3.5V.
  • A participant describes a method using a bipolar transistor configured in a specific way to achieve fast and precise clipping, while also discussing the limitations of the base-emitter junction.
  • Another participant indicates that the feasibility of designing such a clipper circuit without bias voltage depends on how close to the ideal performance is desired.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and methods of achieving clipping without bias voltage, with no consensus reached on a definitive solution or approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various components and configurations, highlighting the limitations of certain diodes at specific voltage levels and the potential fragility of transistor junctions in different setups.

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Electronics enthusiasts, circuit designers, and students interested in clipping circuits and voltage regulation techniques may find this discussion relevant.

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Good Day everyone.

Is it possible to design a clipper circuit to bias at higher voltage level without using bias voltage?

For example. to clip at 3.5V for a input signal of 10V sine without using a BIAS VOLTAGE??
 
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It's a little unclear as to what you mean by bias voltage. Usually clipping is achieved by shunting a relatively high impedance signal to a relatively low impedance voltage source through a diode. While you may be able to build a clipper using a zener, perhaps in combination with other diodes, the result won't be as clean of clipping as if you had used a voltage source to set the clipping level.
 
At 3.5V zeners are useless.
Replace diode and battery with:
LED's work pretty good.
Solid state zeners should work good. Such as LM385Z-2.5
 
I made once a very good clipper by connecting the emitter of a bipolar transistor to the input, the base to the clipping voltage minus Vbe, and the collector to the ground or a power rail. Precise, strong, very fast. In your diagram's polarity it would be a PNP.

Though, the base-emitter junction is fragile and breaks down at few volts.

The solution is to swap the emittor and collector of the (still PNP here) transistor to input at the sturdy base-collector junction. ¡Ole! A bipolar still works that way, albeit with its less good reverse current gain, and is slower.

If (probably) the ground or negative supply is too far away for the (now) base-emitter junction, use a cascode with a PNP (biased normally) to limit the first transistor's base-emitter voltage to 1V.

If the reverse beta is too low and the resulting clipping base current uncomfortable for the voltage reference, add a PNP Darlington.

That makes more cabling than an integrated Zener equivalent, but it's damned fast, and clips more current than the reference can sink.
 
Is it possible to design a clipper circuit to bias at higher voltage level without using bias voltage?
It depends how close to the ideal you want it ...
 

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