Coding - instilling a subconcious fear

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The discussion centers on the concept of "coding" in therapy, particularly its effectiveness as a placebo treatment. Participants explore whether this method can work even if a patient is aware it is a placebo. It is suggested that belief at a subconscious level is crucial for the therapy to be effective, as conscious skepticism may not fully inhibit the subconscious mind's response. The conversation draws parallels to the effects of horror films on the subconscious, indicating that fear or suggestion can influence behavior despite conscious awareness. The concept of Alert Hypnosis is introduced, highlighting that individuals can be hypnotized without their conscious knowledge, which may enhance the effectiveness of such therapies. The overall consensus is that if a patient can be convinced at a deeper level that the treatment is genuine, it could yield positive results.
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"coding" - instilling a subconscious fear

I just came across this article from 2005 and I found it curious

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/01/AR2005100101196.html

I don't know a crap about psychology or medicine, so can somebody with knowledge explain if this therapy is possible to use even against a patient who knows it's just a placebo?
 
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Nikitin said:
I just came across this article from 2005 and I found it curious

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/01/AR2005100101196.html

I don't know a crap about psychology or medicine, so can somebody with knowledge explain if this therapy is possible to use even against a patient who knows it's just a placebo?
If the patient knows it's a joke, it's not going to work. They have to believe on some level.
 


Consciously the patient might think it's a joke, but the subconscious part of his brain might not think so..

It might be the same kind of thing after watching a very nasty horror film, if I'd make a guess.

Anyway, only one reply in this thread? :(
 


Nikitin said:
Consciously the patient might think it's a joke, but the subconscious part of his brain might not think so..

It might be the same kind of thing after watching a very nasty horror film, if I'd make a guess.

Anyway, only one reply in this thread? :(

I think Evo's right, and you're basically saying a different version of the same thing, that the person might believe it on some level while consciously not believing they believe it.

A good hypnotist can circumvent what you consciously believe and get to the undiscriminating child inside you.

The fairly recently recognized phenomenon of Alert Hypnosis

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16696560

allows for the possibility of people being hypnotized without them being aware it's happening, which is what people like Derren Brown claim to be doing sometimes.

To the extent someone could convince you, deep down, that anti-alcoholic "coding" is, in fact effected by the drugs and not the power of suggestion, it ought to work, despite any rumors you've heard to the contrary.
 
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