Colliding hydrogen atoms find velocity to raise to N=2

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The discussion focuses on calculating the minimum speed required for two hydrogen atoms to collide and both be excited to the n=2 energy level. The energy change necessary for this excitation comes from the kinetic energy of the colliding atoms. The calculations involve using the energy levels of hydrogen and the mass of hydrogen in the energy balance equation. A key point is the need to convert energy units from eV to joules for proper calculations. Additionally, the importance of using the center of mass frame and maintaining correct units throughout the process is emphasized.
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Homework Statement



Two hydrogen atoms, both initially in the
ground state, undergo a head-on collision.
If both atoms are to be excited to the n = 2
level in this collision, what is the minimum
speed each atom can have before the collision?
Answer in units of m/s

1 mol of hydrogen is 1.008g

Homework Equations



En = K + Uelec

For a hydrogen atom: En= 13.6/N^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, so I know that there is a change in energy that excites the atoms to N=2. This change in energy must be from kinetic energy.

So,
Two atoms collide into each other. And after the collision they are raised to N=2.

A. 2(Ei+K)=2(Ef) ;note, i used 2 because it is two atoms colliding
The twos cancel?
B. Ei+K=Ef
-13.6/(1*1)+1/2(mh)v^2=-13.6/(2*2) ;mh is mass of hydrogen
-13.6+1/2(mh)V^2=-3.4
C. 10.2=1/2(mh)v^2 ;add 13.6 to both sides

Am I correct up until here? (Part C)
To find mass of hydrogen
D. 1.008/6.02*10^23=1.67*10^-24

E. 10.2=1/2(1.67*10^-24)*(v^2)
20.4=(1.67*10^-24)*(V^2)
1.22155 E 25=V^2

Where did I mess up?
 
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Okay, I figured it out:

10.2=1/2(mh)V^2
20.4=(mh)V^2

mh is equivalent to the mass of a proton which is 938E6 MeV/C^2

so, 20.4/938E6=v^2

so V^2 = 2.17484E-8
v= 1.474E-4

You have to multiply by c, I am not exactly sure the reasoning but
1.474E-4 * 299792458 = 44211.4107m/s

Hope if you stumble upon this with the same problem it helps.

Id still appreciate an explanation if anyone wants to give one.
 
First, be clear that you are using the center of mass frame. In that frame, the situation with respect to the two H is symmetric, so you can just look at one of them.

Second, use the right units. Since you need your answer to be in MKS units, you need to convert the 13.6 eV to joules.
 
Bill Headrick said:
mh is equivalent to the mass of a proton which is 938E6 MeV/C^2
You are off by a factor of a million.

Also, don't forget that in your energy balance equation the Hs still exist after the collision, so their masses are still there.
 
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