Collision with 3 particles and inelastic string

In summary, the problem involves three identical balls on a smooth surface, with the third ball moving with velocity v and striking the second ball at an angle of 30 degrees with the string connecting it to the first ball. Energy is conserved and the goal is to find the post-impact velocities and impulsive tension. However, the solution does not match the given options and further equations and variables may be needed to accurately solve the problem.
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The problem :

3 identical balls lie on a smooth horizontal surface, the 3rd ball moving with a velocity v while the other 2 are stationary and inter-connected via a taut inelastic string. Ball 3 strikes ball 2 normally making angle = 30 degrees with the string. Energy is conserved. We need to find post-impact velocities and impulsive tension.

My attempt :

By the usual principle that elastic collisions between identical bodies exchange velocities, ball 3 should become stationary while ball 2 acquires V and a part of it gets canceled by tension which then acts on ball 1 and the final result is such that both balls 1 and 2 move with equal final velocities.

However this doesn't match the options given. What exactly am I doing wrong ?
 
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Do you have a sketch of the setup? Where is ball 1, relative to the collision of ball3/ball2?

Ball 1 and 2 could rotate around their common center of mass afterwards (together with a common movement), depending on the setup. In addition, ball 1 could be involved in the first collision, as the string is inelastic.
 
  • #3
Crude ASCII art :

B1
...-
...-
...-
...-
...-
...-
B3->...B2

The angle B3B2B1 is 30 degrees, obviously. The string is represented by the "-"s.
 
  • #4
Well in that case, B2 cannot move with the original velocity of B3 - it has to transmit a force to B1, therefore B2 will be slower.
You can set up an equation system with all conserved quantities as equations and solve that.
 
  • #5
So conserving angular momentum, linear momentum, and energy should be enough, yeah ?
 
  • #6
You need an additional equation to express that force in the string can act in the direction of the string only.
1 equation for angular momentum
2 equations for linear momentum
1 equation for energy
1 equation for the string
This leaves one degree of freedom, which corresponds to the impact point of B3. If they collide head-on, you can an additional equation for the direction of momentum transfer (here, it is identical with zero vertical velocity of B3 after the collision).
 

1. What is a collision with 3 particles and inelastic string?

A collision with 3 particles and inelastic string refers to a scenario in which three particles collide with each other while connected by an inelastic string, meaning the string does not conserve energy during the collision and can stretch or deform.

2. How is the momentum conserved in a collision with 3 particles and inelastic string?

The total momentum of the three particles and the string before the collision is equal to the total momentum after the collision. This means that the sum of the individual momenta of the particles and the string before the collision is equal to the sum of their individual momenta after the collision.

3. What factors affect the outcome of a collision with 3 particles and inelastic string?

The masses and velocities of the particles, as well as the length and elasticity of the string, all play a role in determining the outcome of the collision. These factors can affect the amount of energy lost during the collision and the resulting velocities of the particles.

4. Can a collision with 3 particles and inelastic string result in a perfectly elastic collision?

No, a collision with 3 particles and inelastic string can never result in a perfectly elastic collision because energy is lost due to the inelasticity of the string. This means that the total kinetic energy before and after the collision will not be the same.

5. How is the coefficient of restitution calculated in a collision with 3 particles and inelastic string?

The coefficient of restitution in this scenario is calculated by dividing the relative velocity of separation (i.e. the velocity at which the particles and string move away from each other after the collision) by the relative velocity of approach (i.e. the velocity at which the particles and string were moving towards each other before the collision).

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