Columb distance/charge balancing problem

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The discussion revolves around the Columb distance/charge balancing problem involving two charges on a meter stick: +1 coulomb at the 0 cm mark and +4 coulombs at the 100 cm mark. The objective is to determine the position of a proton such that the net force acting on it from both charges equals zero. The solution involves establishing a relationship between the distances from the proton to each charge, leading to the conclusion that the distance to the +4 charge must be twice that of the distance to the +1 charge. The final position of the proton is derived using algebraic manipulation of the forces involved.

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Homework Statement


A meter stick has two charges placed on it at the 0 mark is a charge of +1 coulomb. On the 100cm mark is a charge of +4 coulombs. Where should a proton be placed on the meter stick so that the net force due to both charges is 0.

Homework Equations



Kc = Coulomb const.
Q= charge
a=unknown distance from +1 on proton
b= unknown distance from +4 on proton
X= proton on line
(Kc*Q1*Qn)/r^2= Force 1 on n

The Attempt at a Solution



So far I've attempted to do the following:
+1_________________+4
The proton must fall in some region between the two.
If we take 50cm to be the origin of this system and 100 to be +50cm and -50 to be the negative maximum the system at 0 then the +1 charge acts on it towards the negative X direction. So it goes from this:

0________100cm
to
-50cm_______0_______50cm

-[(Kc*Qproton*Q+1)/a^2]+(Kc*Qproton*Q+4)/b^2 = 0
This however, gives me:
[b^2/a^2]=4/1
b/a=2/1

Which to me says that in order for this equation to be true then the distance to the proton on the +4 charge must be twice that of the distance from +1. However I can't seem to find any reasonable way to put this on the meter stick. The only possibility I can think of that would follow this is that the proton must be 30cm from the +1 charge and 60cm from the +4 charge but this still leaves 10cm that don't exist on the meter stick.

Have been working on this for a few hours now and am beginning to think maybe I'm thinking about this the wrong way. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Specialmias said:
… in order for this equation to be true then the distance to the proton on the +4 charge must be twice that of the distance from +1. However I can't seem to find any reasonable way to put this on the meter stick. The only possibility I can think of that would follow this is that the proton must be 30cm from the +1 charge and 60cm from the +4 charge but this still leaves 10cm that don't exist on the meter stick.

Hi Specialmias! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Yes, you're right … the distance to the proton on the +4 charge must be twice that of the distance from +1.

Now calm down! …

just use algebra …

start by saying "if the distance from the 0 cm mark is x cm, then … " :wink:
 
Oh wow. 3X completely whooshed by my head. You've saved my sanity, thank you.
 

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