Is the Commutator of a Cross Product a Vector Operator?

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The discussion centers on proving that the cross product of two vector operators, \(\vec{V}\) and \(\vec{W}\), is also a vector operator. The key approach involves demonstrating that the commutator with the angular momentum vector operator \(\vec{J}\) is non-zero, specifically showing that \([\vec{V}\times \vec{W}, \vec{J}] \neq 0\). Initial confusion arises regarding the type of multiplication to use in the commutator, with clarifications that it is not the dot product but rather a tensor representation. The conclusion drawn is that to confirm \(\vec{V}\times \vec{W}\) as a vector operator, it must satisfy the condition \([(V \times W)_{i}, J_{j}] = i \hbar \epsilon_{ijk} (V \times W)_{k}\). This indicates that the cross product of vector operators retains the properties of vector operators.
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Homework Statement


Given that \vec{V} and \vec{W} are vector operators, show that \vec{V}\times \vec{W} is also a vector operator.

2. The attempt at a solution
The only way I know how to do this is by showing that the commutator with the angular momentum vector operator (\vec{J}) is zero. Namely that [\vec{V}\times \vec{W} , \vec{J}] = 0. I want to start the problem by expressing the commutator as I would usually do by writing [A,B] = AB - BA, but I don't know exactly which type of multiplication to use here. Intuition tells me the dot product, but I want to be sure.
 
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Dot product is right.

Edit: Or not, see below.
 
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teroenza said:

Homework Statement


Given that \vec{V} and \vec{W} are vector operators, show that \vec{V}\times \vec{W} is also a vector operator.

2. The attempt at a solution
The only way I know how to do this is by showing that the commutator with the angular momentum vector operator (\vec{J}) is zero. Namely that [\vec{V}\times \vec{W} , \vec{J}] = 0. I want to start the problem by expressing the commutator as I would usually do by writing [A,B] = AB - BA, but I don't know exactly which type of multiplication to use here. Intuition tells me the dot product, but I want to be sure.

No, it's not the dot-product. The usual meaning of [A, \vec{J}] is that the result is a composite object (a tensor) with three components:

[A, J_x], [A, J_y], [A, J_z]

If A is itself a vector, then you get 9 components:

[\vec{A}, \vec{J}] = T

where T_{ij} = [A_i, J_j] and where i and j are either x, y, or z.

As to your claim that for a vector operator, [\vec{A}, \vec{J}] = 0, you should try an example with the momentum operator, \vec{p}. Try [p_x, J_y].
 
Thank you. That is a mistake above. I meant that the only way I know of to show that it is a vector operator, is to show that <br /> [\vec{V}\times \vec{W} , \vec{J}] \neq 0. I was able to show that this is the case. This means it is not a scalar operator, but I am not sure if this is sufficient to show that it is a vector operator. It does mean that the rotation generator operator U won't commute with V x W.

Edit: I believe now that the condition to show that it is a vector operator, is to show that: <br /> [(\vec{V}\times \vec{W})_{i}, \vec{J}_{j}] = i \hbar \epsilon_{ijk} (\vec{V}\times \vec{W})_{k}<br />
 
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